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Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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post #11

Of course it will survive. But is it enough to pay off your mortgage and is it economically significant as like say a surgeon or a quantitative analyst / trader? I don't think so.

I think the supply demand curve shifts. It will still be expensive in education/time and status will only slowly degrade, but the number which can be supported at even moderate academic pay will fall dramatically.

I don't know any today that make what even a mediocre new surgeon or quant takes home.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

#32
post #8

Yeah I have to agree with the author's main point near the end. Knowing a new language is a lot more than the ability to use google translate.

> Knowing a new language is a lot more than the ability to use google translate.

Machine translation has poor reputation for the mistakes it makes; but if it ever gets good, then I wonder why learning foreign languages will be a more popular activity than learning Latin or Classical Greek is today. Of course reading Homer or Virgil in the original must be much more satisfying than reading them in translation; but the number of people who truly care about that is vanishingly small.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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I teach at a university in Japan, and, for the past two and a half years, I have been struggling with the implications of AI for university education. I found this essay interesting and helpful. One remark: > I fed the entire nine-hundred-page PDF [of the readings for a lecture course titled “Attention and Modernity: Mind, Media, and the Senses”] to Google’s free A.I. tool, NotebookLM, just to see what it would make…

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Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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post #7

My answer is yes :) But will AI survive us ? Just look at how the Internet changed from the 80s to now. It is filled with ads popping up everywhere, making many activities useless.

What you said about ads made me think that ai will probably be orders of magnitude better at marketing/propaganda. Feeling the urge to don some foil on my noggin.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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My answer is yes — at least for now. People tend to believe AI gives the great answers until it touches a field they actually have real expertise in. If you talk to true experts in humanities, you’ll find their depth of insight is on a totally different level compared to AI's surface-level summaries. AI mostly stitches together some published cliche like Max Planck’s driver in the old story.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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post #5

In case anybody is wondering, the answer is obviously yes. Assuming a singularity-type event happens, the humanities will have tremendous value to AGIs as systems of thinking for analyzing themselves, their environment and their interactions with their environment in the same way that existing nation-states value the humanities as foundational tools in developing the abilities of their personnel and executives. Survi…

>>> Surviving humans will no longer be free to participate in the academic humanities however, as their study/curation/production etc will exclusively be job roles for AGIs.

Only if the AGIs want those roles. We already have super-smart people who don't want to be history professors or classical musicians.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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I think it will survive. The metric here is environmental enmeshment. If AI starts training and observing in real time, and can sit, existing ontologically "in time", in our environment that would be the only reason I would see a challenge to the humanities.

AI regurgitates, at synthesizes, but it doesn't have lived experience, it just draws on what its fed -- that isn't human.

Much of the value in the humanities, in art, is owed to its provenance. Viewing it enables social reflection and growth, and engenders culture. That is simply absent in AI unless you want to probe the training data and the nuances of the model, but again that's a pretty circuitous/inefficient path to learning about humans, or growing as one.

It does, however, reveal some of he mechanics involved and, my hope, is that it leads to deeper and more nuanced discourse in the humanities.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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post #32
post #8

Yeah I have to agree with the author's main point near the end. Knowing a new language is a lot more than the ability to use google translate.

> Knowing a new language is a lot more than the ability to use google translate. Machine translation has poor reputation for the mistakes it makes; but if it ever gets good, then I wonder why learning foreign languages will be a more popular activity than learning Latin or Classical Greek is today. Of course reading Homer or Virgil in the original must be much more satisfying than reading them in translation; but the…

Learning new languages has a lot of benefits, talk to ChatGPT about it. One example connected to recent events is it helps people become more cognitively flexible and less tribal. If your favorite burger joint starts serving contaminated food, it’s nice to be able to seamlessly switch to Indian or Chinese.

Re: Will the Humanities Survive Artificial Intelligence?

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There is a fundamental value assigned to human produced work that stems strictly from the fact it’s not AI slop. It comes from empathy.

Why are physical paintings more valuable than digital art? Why is manmade art implicitly higher value than imagegen art? Why do we watch Magnus Carlsen when engines are leagues ahead of the top 10?

Because the human condition matters. We crave seeing the world through the eyes of others with different (or even similar) lived experiences, fantasizing about what we could have been, under different circumstances. Empathizing. AI fundamentally has experienced nothing and so empathizing is not possible. It is not even able to escape the constraints of the human imagination.

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