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ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

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Re: ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

#11
Why the deliberate atrocities?

I read an article that starts with this proposition [1]

> The real question, however, is not how America lost its way. We know the mechanics of it. It lost its way in large measure because Donald Trump, a Pied Piper of malice, led it astray, though one can’t lay all of that or even most of it on Trump. The American people, nearly half of those who voted, in their infinite wisdom empowered Trump to do so. They were looking for a Trump, yearning for a Trump, to do so.

> They wanted a Trump to destroy the nation. They hoped he would destroy the nation both by sowing chaos and discord and by supervising a demolition of our institutions and values. So the real question we should be asking is why so many of our fellow Americans desired this, and what deep proclivities Trump drew upon to prompt the nation, at least a good part of it, to self-immolate. What does Trump give them?

Having read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich as a young person, this is reminiscent of a fascist playbook.

Except that it seems that social media are in effect creating a culture of resentment, projection of weakness and failure onto others and driving it for profit with unfiltered echo chambers.

The cause and effect seems to be playing to a vengeful base in order to keep legislators in line until their branch and the judicial branch are rendered impotent.

Exploring the parallels with Nazi Germany, the amassing of data was paramount.

> DOGE is building a master database for immigration enforcement, sources say [2]

Further,

> TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TEXTED COLLEGE PROFESSORS’ PERSONAL PHONES TO ASK IF THEY’RE JEWISH [3]

> The school later told staff it had provided the Trump administration with personal contact information for faculty members.

> The messages, sent to most Barnard professors’ personal cellphones, asked them to complete a voluntary survey about their employment.

> “Please select all that apply,” said the second question in the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, or EEOC, survey.

> The choices followed: (including) “I am Jewish”; “I am Israeli”; “I have shared Jewish/Israeli ancestry”; “I practice Judaism”; and “Other.”

Data?

IBM provided Germany with tabulating equipment to manage "undesirables" [4] [5]

The notion of cultural supremacy resonates with some in Silicon Valley, land of big and targeted data.

'Reboot' Revealed: Elon Musk's CEO-Dictator Playbook [6]

Silicon Valley Whistleblowers Warn Elon Musk 'Hijacking' Republicans to Control Entire US Government [7]

PDF of their letter. [8] 630K

[1] https://whowhatwhy.org/culture/the-agonizing-work-of-art-tha...

[2] https://www.yahoo.com/news/doge-building-master-database-imm...

[3] https://theintercept.com/2025/04/23/trump-eeoc-barnard-colum...

[4] https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2/3

[5] https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2

[6] https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-d...

[7] https://bylinetimes.com/2025/02/07/silicon-valley-whistleblo...

[8] https://america2.news/content/files/2025/02/Musk-NRx-Memo-Fe...

Re: ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

#12
Of course the administration was lying when it said they would only target “criminals”.

Of course it’s impossible to know who “really” is a critical mastermind. (Comic book lives) /s

Everyone should pay attention and amplify these stories of targeted non-criminal families, because the “radical left” is next. Joking/not-Joking

Here’s another family in Washington state,

“A high schooler stays back as his family, separated by deportation, returns to Guatemala”

APRIL 26, 2025 WEEKEND EDITION SATURDAY

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1-5330896/a-high-schooler...

Re: ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

#16
post #8

"Deports" is wrong word for removing a citizen. "Expels" would be more appropriate.

There are already words for that: banished, disappeared, forced exiled, concentration camp victim... just reuse terms already used to describe crimes done by nazis and other fascist goverments.

Re: ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

#18
post #8

"Deports" is wrong word for removing a citizen. "Expels" would be more appropriate.

> "Deports" is wrong word for removing a citizen. "Expels" would be more appropriate.

While this is true, the use of what's technically the wrong word highlights that the wrong action is being applied.

The action is a deportation. The targets are people who must/shall not ever be deported. Therefore the headline immediately gets attention for concisely describing a violation.

Re: ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Prior to the Deportation

#20

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Downvoted/flagged trolling. Of course people can think of a better right thing to do in this case.

I honestly cannot. There is almost nothing worse than losing your kids. It might be worse than death. The humane solution is to allow a deported parent to keep them.
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