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Post by leephillips »

sedev wrote: post #213

I am going to say a thing I say a lot: please edit Wikipedia. It is easier to do than you probably think! Wikipedia's biggest constraint is no longer money or server space, it's editor time (especially since LLM-based garbage is a force multiplier on disruptive editing that does not have a corresponding improvement to good-faith editing). Any topic area you know about and/or care about can benefit from your attention…

Please do not edit, write for, read, or cite Wikipedia. If you care about or know about a topic, consider writing a book or article about it.

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Post by Braxton1980 »

timewizard wrote: post #265
hayst4ck wrote: post #84

Reason and truth are the enemy of authoritarian regimes. They want you to believe that truth is subjective. Truth and reason provide alternative legitimacy to authority. If nothing is true, there is no basis on which to judge those in power. There is a long legacy of authoritarian regimes attacking curious places, universities, historians, museums, books or any institution that grounds itself in reality which provide…

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>The existence of Wikipedia is a convenience and perhaps not one that should be given tax free status.

Because it's a convenience?

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Post by _aavaa_ »

jfengel wrote: post #228
Fauntleroy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Except that's not coming from the top. Tens of millions of people wanted this. Maybe this is indeed what Russia would do to us. But we're beating them to the punch by doing it to ourselves.

Why do you assume it has to come from just the top?

The Internet Research Agency explicitly focused on the masses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

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Post by kristopolous »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #292
kristopolous wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty constant on hn. People paint everything from country X, holistically, with some broad and blunt moral brush. It reads like a cartoon. Everything from China is loaded with secret spyware snooping on you for countless unspecified evils - everything out of Russia by anyone is part of some secret global propaganda network. I point it out as absurd and reductive whenever I see it and people dogpile on me like…

>everything out of Russia by anyone is part of some secret global propaganda network. Who has claimed all Russians are part of a large propaganda network. This is about a government news network.

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Post by hayst4ck »

txcwg002 wrote: post #287
hayst4ck wrote: post #84

Reason and truth are the enemy of authoritarian regimes. They want you to believe that truth is subjective. Truth and reason provide alternative legitimacy to authority. If nothing is true, there is no basis on which to judge those in power. There is a long legacy of authoritarian regimes attacking curious places, universities, historians, museums, books or any institution that grounds itself in reality which provide…

According to its cofounder, Wikipedia abandoned truth long ago. https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/

What organizations, institutions, or media do you think have a greater commitment to truth, or even just a commitment to truth?

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Post by fzeroracer »

hackyhacky wrote: post #281
pachorizons wrote: post #145

Remember as you read more and more news like this that many of the owners of Y Combinator supported this.

Who, specifically, are you referring to; and what have they done or said to make you believe that they support this?

Well, the good news is that there's a very convenient link at the bottom of the page here on HN for the AI startup school [1] which is host to a bunch of people that you should recognize.

[1] https://events.ycombinator.com/ai-sus

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Post by Braxton1980 »

moshegramovsky wrote: post #166
giraffe_lady wrote: post #157

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Could one of you point me to antisemitic bias on wikipedia just so I have a concrete example at hand?

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/editing-hate-how-anti-i... Read it for yourself.

Instead of posting another person's argument that contains your source can you be more specific?

This is like citing an entire book to prove a point.

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Post by Braxton1980 »

emacsen wrote: post #175
giraffe_lady wrote: post #157

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Could one of you point me to antisemitic bias on wikipedia just so I have a concrete example at hand?

Basically, almost any time Zionists are mentioned, they're mentioned in a negative light and with genuine disinformation, such as that Zionism is the belief that Arabs needs to be destroyed. That is like saying the Civil Rights movement in the US was about killing white people. They also position things in such a way that implies antisemitic things, such as saying that Zionism is only 200 years old, or discussing the…

>Basically, almost any time Zionists are mentioned, they're mentioned in a negative light and with genuine disinformation,

Your first statement is a sweeping generalization that you can't prove

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Post by Braxton1980 »

moshegramovsky wrote: post #165
giraffe_lady wrote: post #161

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Could you point me to an example of what you have in mind on wikipedia? I'm admittedly not as practiced at discerning subtle antisemitism as I am some other forms of discrimination. But also usually when it's being alluded to in the abstract like this people mean something closer to "criticism of israel's actions."

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/editing-hate-how-anti-i...

I didn't read that because the person asked for an example and you directed them to a 150 printed page article where you didn't specify which page(s)

This is the equivalent of stating that dinosaurs evolved into birds then when asked for one piece of evidence directing a person to a book, by another author, on how dinosaurs evolved into birds

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Post by fguerraz »

r053bud wrote: post #109
tzs wrote: post #69

> Before being named U.S. attorney, Martin appeared on Russia-backed media networks more than 150 times, The Washington Post reported last week. In one appearance on RT in 2022, he said there was no evidence of military buildup on Ukraine’s boarders only nine days before Russia invaded the country. He further criticized U.S. officials as warmongering and ignoring Russia security concerns. This is getting ridiculous.…

We voted for this! This is “democracy” at work

There is no democracy without a free press, or else no one can make an informed decision. I doubt that the press can be called free when it’s owned by oligarchs.
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