Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

Post by moshegramovsky » Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 1:29 AM UTC

emacsen wrote: post #124

hayst4ck wrote: post #84

Reason and truth are the enemy of authoritarian regimes. They want you to believe that truth is subjective. Truth and reason provide alternative legitimacy to authority. If nothing is true, there is no basis on which to judge those in power. There is a long legacy of authoritarian regimes attacking curious places, universities, historians, museums, books or any institution that grounds itself in reality which provide…

Aren't you making their point though? The ADL and other Jewish organizations have pointed out that aside from articles about Israel that articles about or mention Jewish topics generally have been editing with disinformation or that made Jews out to be the aggressors. I agree with you that in order to believe in the ideals of liberal democracy that we must have a core belief in truth. And it's absolutely true that th…

Post by sandspar » Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 1:30 AM UTC

Post by duskwuff » Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 1:36 AM UTC

SanjayMehta wrote: post #111

duskwuff wrote: post #97

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Despite anything he may say about himself, Larry Sanger is not, by any stretch of the imagination, "the founder of Wikipedia". He was a paid employee of the project in 2001; his involvement with the site ended in early 2002 when funding for the position ran out. His experience with the site nearly 25 years ago does not make him an authority on how it is run today.

Wikipedia’s article on Sanger calls him cofounder and credits him with its name: “ Lawrence Mark Sanger (/ˈsæŋər/ ⓘ;[1] born July 16, 1968) is an American Internet project developer and philosopher who co-founded Wikipedia along with Jimmy Wales. Sanger coined Wikipedia's name, and provided initial drafts for many of its early guidelines, including the "Neutral point of view" and "Ignore all rules" policies.” https:/…

Post by giraffe_lady » Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 1:39 AM UTC

moshegramovsky wrote: post #151

emacsen wrote: post #124

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Aren't you making their point though? The ADL and other Jewish organizations have pointed out that aside from articles about Israel that articles about or mention Jewish topics generally have been editing with disinformation or that made Jews out to be the aggressors. I agree with you that in order to believe in the ideals of liberal democracy that we must have a core belief in truth. And it's absolutely true that th…

I agree 100%. It's exhausting fighting against antisemitic bias, and it feels like it's everywhere these days. My problem with Ed Martin is that what he is doing is clearly wrong. Hannah Arendt wrote a book about people like him.

Post by bigthymer » Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 1:41 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #81

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> What comes after will be more transparent, more fair, and more integrated with society. Can you walk me through how you see this playing out, step-by-step? I want to believe!

Over the last thousand years, humans have become more educated and more connected. Violent deaths have been steadily falling. Over the last hundred years, American military and paramilitary forces, and their vendors, have subverted transparency and democracy to turn America into a military dictatorship. There is nothing to suggest that the fall of the United States and subsequent replacement (with whatever may come)…