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Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by nailer »

techpineapple wrote: post #30
nailer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding the missing topics mentioned in the article (updated to quote them for convenience): The Barack Obama article completely fails to mention many well-known scandals: Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the AP phone records scandal, and Fast and Furious, to say nothing of Solyndra or the Hillary Clinton email server scandal—or, of course, the developing “Obamagate” story in which Obama was personally involved in survei…

Oh look! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack They creatively censored it under the title “2012 Banghazi Attack”

The article above that we are discussing discusses the omission of the Benghazi attack as an aspect of Barack Obama‘s presidency.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by hagbard_c »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #4
myth_drannon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Absolute nonsense. Wikipedia is infinitely better than every source of “facts” out there.

No, Wikipedia is no better than any other site which allows user edits and in many ways reliably biased towards certain narratives - which narrative depends on the subject of the Wikipedia article. Wikipedia articles should always be read in conjunction with the Talk and Edit history pages and even then it is necessary to find original sources for any claims made in Wikipedia articles.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by MathMonkeyMan »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #19
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #17

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Talking about our march into fascism is still considered off topic here apparently. Isn’t that exactly the sort of topic a supposed forum of hackers ought to be discussing however?

The concern is that it's too easy to contribute to hot political topics. Moderation wants to prevent this forum from becoming identical to so many others, and the only tool available is to deemphasize posts.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by MPSFounder »

jtrip wrote: post #10

The scale of deep body trauma that has been done to the US will not seem clear today, but it will have dire consequences for the future trajectory of US. I am sad for this, for the current status quo I was born under, but I suppose History must happen.

The PhD institution I went to reduced their acceptance from 50 to 26. There is fear of not securing funding. The damage done is projects that are promising were cut. These projects will get picked up by other countries. The damage in the long term will be losing our edge in many regards, which will harm our economy. Where I did my undergrad just replaced their dean with an AIPAC member who has no experience in academia (a first in nearly two hundred years of this institution's). It is insane what is happening. A judge in Wisconsin was arrested today. There are those who believe America is resilient. The damage being done (I can promise you) will cause this great nation unbelievable harm in the long run, when this traitor in charge and his foreign allies (Putin and Netanyahu) which he promises allegiance to OVER our constitution and our moral values have long since passed. There is much noise, much of it as a distraction, but on the small level, many changes (most recently the NSF director leaving) are tangible changes that have a real impact that is certainly felt immediately in budget cuts, but will be even more drastic in its long term strategic impact. Also, I fly a bunch, and I see an immediate change in the respect America used to command abroad. Our values and reputation, which took over a hundred years in the making, became a laughing stock, and our closest allies no longer view America as a beacon.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by TZubiri »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #33
kjkjadksj wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about our march into fascism is still considered off topic here apparently. Isn’t that exactly the sort of topic a supposed forum of hackers ought to be discussing however?

The concern is that it's too easy to contribute to hot political topics. Moderation wants to prevent this forum from becoming identical to so many others, and the only tool available is to deemphasize posts.

Hot political topics are often semi protected anyways.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by firesteelrain »

Wikipedia/Wikimedia could move to a country that allows this type of manipulation on their platform or figure out how to comply with the existing US law.

Wikipedia could also stop operating as a 501c3 and incorporate.

But the typical out for these organizations are that they are not responsible for what people post. I don’t feel like that is very responsible. They already have moderation on the platform.

But Wikimedia/pedia can’t claim 501c3 status. It could spin off the political content/controversial into 501c4 which has more leeway. It can tighten editorial controls, emphasize first amendment, look at Section 230. Publish reports showing how misinformation is identified and corrected, partner with fact checking organizations.

But also if they cannot police their own content without an unpaid army of volunteers then herein lies the bigger issue with their model.

Re: Wikipedia’s nonprofit status questioned by D.C. U.S. attorney

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

nailer wrote: post #20
mikeyouse wrote: post #18

Remember when people pretended it was the scandal of all scandals that the IRS was reviewing PACs who were forbidden from doing political activity for political activity? And now many of those same people are cheering this, and the act blue ‘investigation’, and the threats against Harvard’s tax exempt status for nakedly corrupt reasons? Man I wish shame still had some stopping power.

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Now imagine a sitting President personally saying 'the highest holders of my grift coin get a personal visit with me'. That would seem odd, wouldn't it?
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