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Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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Since the Judiciary seem to be the only ones pushing back against the Federal overreach it makes sense to them go after them first. I don't expect Congress to start getting arrested until or if they ever do any significant pushback against Trump and his cronies. This is America now, the land of the lawless and unjust. Prepare accordingly people, if they do not like what you are doing they will use their full power to…

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Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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This feels like a “break glass in case of emergency” kind of moment. Sure there are no details yet, but I’m trying to imagine details which would make me think “that arrest makes sense.” If I were in Milwaukee I’d be in the streets.

The copper that connects the alarm lever to the alarm system was sold for scrap 25 years ago

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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post #16

> He accused Dugan of “intentionally misdirecting” federal agents who arrived at the courthouse to detain an immigrant who was set to appear before her in an unrelated proceeding. It sounds like the arrest isn't because of any official act of the judge, but rather over them either not telling the ICE agents where the person was or giving them the wrong information about their location. There are some pretty broad law…

What would have been the right move for Dugan here, according to ICE?

Can a judge legally detain a defendant after a pre-trial hearing on the basis of "there are some agents asking about you for unrelated reasons?"

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You are asking for an armed standoff. Last time that happened in this country, college students were slaughtered by government forces.

Depends a bit on your politics. https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/nx-s1-4966725/a-decade-after-... > Ten years after staging an armed standoff with federal agents on his Nevada ranch, Cliven Bundy remains free. As does his son Ammon, despite an active warrant for Ammon from Idaho related to a harassment lawsuit.

People also died during the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, which was an extension of the Bundy standoff. I think it's fair to say that these are kinds of showdowns between federal and state/local forces are fraught with danger for those involved.

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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post #157

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I'm not sure if this is intended to be a hypothetical but there is no IRS form where "Drug Dealer" is the correct answer. Drug dealing income would be disclosed as "Other income". If you volunteer "drug dealer" my guess is they could use it against you. Similar to showing up at FBI headquarters and shouting "I'm a drug dealer!"

> I'm not sure if this is intended to be a hypothetical but there is no IRS form where "Drug Dealer" is the correct answer. What else would you put in the Occupation field at the end of the form?

Independent salesman.

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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post #22

There are two types of warrants being talked about here, traditional judge signed warrants and "administrative"/"ICE" warrants. The first one carries the ability to perform a search and possible detainment subject to the 4th amendment protections, the latter allows for discretion under the 4th amendment (this may be an viewed as an unconstitutional search) the Judge exercised their discretion with respect for constit…

> It's a sad day in America when people do actually enforce the rules get trapped by other rules.

The people who enforce the rules being bound by the rules is precisely the way it is meant to work. Of course, it remains to be seen if any laws were actually broken.

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if this is intended to be a hypothetical but there is no IRS form where "Drug Dealer" is the correct answer. Drug dealing income would be disclosed as "Other income". If you volunteer "drug dealer" my guess is they could use it against you. Similar to showing up at FBI headquarters and shouting "I'm a drug dealer!"

> I'm not sure if this is intended to be a hypothetical but there is no IRS form where "Drug Dealer" is the correct answer. What else would you put in the Occupation field at the end of the form?

Independent Pharmaceutical Sales Consultant

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

#200

Would it not be better to have a peaceful, civil, lawful, separation of the two different Americas than for us to rigidly cling to an idea of a "United" States that no longer represents reality? We're clearly living in two different realities already, brought about the partisan media (on both sides) willfully and deliberately misrepresenting reality to serve the interests of their shadowy trillion-dollar corporate co…

There's no way to gerrymander a border that splits America into two geographically distinct countries with strong majority representation of whatever binary you think exists. By that I mean, there are communists in Kentucky and Proud Boys in Hawaii. If we seriously tried to split in two, it'd be like post-colonial India and Pakistan with worse weapons. regardless, this idea is a distraction from the problem of wealth…

I'm all for corporate death penalty or forced divestiture for every company with a $1T+ market cap.

Fuck Apple, Nvidia, Amazon, Microsoft, Alphabet, Meta, Tesla, Broadcom, and Berkshire Hathaway.

The more decentralization the better.

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