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Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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Post by whoknowsidont »

nh23423fefe wrote: post #44
whoknowsidont wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, list them. And be exceedingly honest, rational, and evidence-based about how effective those courses of actions would be.

Lol, before it was civil war, now its explain yourself point by point.

I stated a position and viewpoint, GP said "no that's not the only option." but didn't elucidate anything.

So yeah, state something affirmative that can be responded to. And again, don't be disingenuous about how effective those options would be, this is not the same America we were in even 4 months ago.

Re: FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities

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Post by openasocket »

At the moment we don't have a lot of the facts. All we seem to have at this moment is a (since deleted?) post from the head of the FBI. There's a ton of context that is missing. Like what does "intentionally misdirecting" mean? Does that mean saying "he went that way" when he really went in the opposite direction? Does it mean not answering questions about this person, or being obtuse? I'd also like to know more of the circumstances here. Did ICE agents literally walk into court and question the judge while sitting on the bench?

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

_mlbt wrote: post #37
whoknowsidont wrote: post #12

Democratic states really need to start disallowing federal agents to operate within their borders and band together. Activate their respective national guards and make it happen. Yes, that means defying federal law. Yes that means exactly the consequences you want to draw from those actions. There is no other option at this point. The law is dead in the U.S.

Why are deportations of illegal immigrants bad? Come here legally and be properly vetted. The law is dead if states defy it by refusing to allow federal agents to enforce immigration law. This whole stance is absolute madness.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I am for reducing illegal immigration, but I am firmly against how ICE/this admin is doing it and I feel that the states should be pushing back against the attacks on due process.

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Post by frumplestlatz »

daheza wrote: post #21

Since the Judiciary seem to be the only ones pushing back against the Federal overreach it makes sense to them go after them first. I don't expect Congress to start getting arrested until or if they ever do any significant pushback against Trump and his cronies. This is America now, the land of the lawless and unjust. Prepare accordingly people, if they do not like what you are doing they will use their full power to…

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Post by mbrumlow »

huitzitziltzin wrote: post #24

This feels like a “break glass in case of emergency” kind of moment. Sure there are no details yet, but I’m trying to imagine details which would make me think “that arrest makes sense.” If I were in Milwaukee I’d be in the streets.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

like_any_other wrote: post #13

> Patel announced the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan in a post on the social media platform X, which he deleted moments after posting. The post accused Dugan of “intentionally misdirecting” federal agents who arrived at the courthouse to detain an immigrant who was set to appear before her in an unrelated proceeding. Federal agents have been using this to charge people for nearly a century [1].…

> Federal agents have been using this to charge people for nearly a century

Using it on judges?

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Post by ceejayoz »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #28
whoknowsidont wrote: post #12

Democratic states really need to start disallowing federal agents to operate within their borders and band together. Activate their respective national guards and make it happen. Yes, that means defying federal law. Yes that means exactly the consequences you want to draw from those actions. There is no other option at this point. The law is dead in the U.S.

You are asking for an armed standoff. Last time that happened in this country, college students were slaughtered by government forces.

Depends a bit on your politics.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/nx-s1-4966725/a-decade-after-...

> Ten years after staging an armed standoff with federal agents on his Nevada ranch, Cliven Bundy remains free. As does his son Ammon, despite an active warrant for Ammon from Idaho related to a harassment lawsuit.

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

frumplestlatz wrote: post #64
daheza wrote: post #21

Since the Judiciary seem to be the only ones pushing back against the Federal overreach it makes sense to them go after them first. I don't expect Congress to start getting arrested until or if they ever do any significant pushback against Trump and his cronies. This is America now, the land of the lawless and unjust. Prepare accordingly people, if they do not like what you are doing they will use their full power to…

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It is absolutely federal overreach to send people to foreign torture prisons (or even domestic utopian cuddle farms) without due process, full stop.
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