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Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #136

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I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

The reddit thread in question had an absurd amount of victim-blaming. Not to disparage reddit as a whole, but there's a lot of close-mindedness and misogyny in the more populated subreddits.

You haven't said anything that has attacked my point.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #129

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I'm not writing from a position of fear. The thought process of rapists is an interesting— albeit chilling— subject to study. My problem was with the responses to the rapists by what appeared to be normal, well-adjusted people: Heavily upvoted comments excusing what was textbook rape because alcohol was involved, or she said she wanted it at one point (or maybe she didn't and they assumed she said it), or because she…

I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

Victim-blaming is not a necessary reaction to anything.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #129

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I'm not writing from a position of fear. The thought process of rapists is an interesting— albeit chilling— subject to study. My problem was with the responses to the rapists by what appeared to be normal, well-adjusted people: Heavily upvoted comments excusing what was textbook rape because alcohol was involved, or she said she wanted it at one point (or maybe she didn't and they assumed she said it), or because she…

I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

Victim-blaming, like all blaming, is a matter of opinion. There is no objective truth in who's to blame -- not because the facts can't be established, but because blame is by its nature about meaning, not about whether events happened.

You're saying it's a necessary reaction to the telling of truth. He's saying it's not about truth, it's about opinion.

So yes, he is responding to your point.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

Victim-blaming, like all blaming, is a matter of opinion. There is no objective truth in who's to blame -- not because the facts can't be established, but because blame is by its nature about meaning, not about whether events happened. You're saying it's a necessary reaction to the telling of truth. He's saying it's not about truth, it's about opinion. So yes, he is responding to your point.

And it's ineffective. If you have to say it's about opinion, you've already lost. I know that there are opinions that state that victim-blaming is a terrible thing.

I even believe it.

But we couldn't have this conversation unless this, _this itself_ was a reaction to the telling of truth.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #142

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I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

Victim-blaming is not a necessary reaction to anything.

You're flat-out wrong. The word "necessary" has so many connotations that you can't control it.

Necessary means that it happens whether or not you want it to.

Necessary hurts.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #114

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>Actually Quora is better than that (for me) in that it's a double hit on the hype on both Q&A and social. well said. fuck Quora, as the OP suggested. The best place to ask questions from the article like "What is the best way to hide an affair"--as if Quora could ever manage an honest discussion like that--is reddit. Of course, you couldn't ask the question just like that. It'd have to be more genuine, a post on /r/…

"The best place to ask questions from the article like "What is the best way to hide an affair" Nahh ask it on 4chan- /s (of course). Be more fun. ;)

you're the only one in this thread that knows chaos. So fuck you. :D

edit: ok well, to the point of expressing it. orthodoxy. he's the only one that was willing to fight orthodoxy.

because my thread had its bearings in the absurd and often wrong orthodoxy of reddit.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #112

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That rapist thread in /r/AskReddit was, next to the time a poor girl was harassed due to a user thinking she faked her assault story, the worst thing I've ever seen on reddit. The direct responses were exactly what the OP had asked, but the comment replies by users were flooded with rape apology and victim blaming. In one instance, a rapist had to tell people to stop apologizing for him because he knew he was an actu…

Much, much better support on Ask Metafilter. You have to pay a whole $5 for eternal access, but that's apparently enough to reduce the level of trolls by 9000%.

You lose something when you cross that wall.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #33

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I'm aware of that link and here's my result in Chrome on Incognito. Within our dataset of several million visitors, only one in 1,172,808 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys 20.16 bits of identifying information.

I changed my user agent string & managed to get down to 15.99 bits of information (one in 65,161). Curious if anyone did better.

10.9 bits, 1 in 1900 some odd.

Running Firefox with no-script/ad-block/request policy + UA string set to IE 8. Sites I enable scripting on will surely get more info.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #132

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Much, much better support on Ask Metafilter. You have to pay a whole $5 for eternal access, but that's apparently enough to reduce the level of trolls by 9000%.

I keep hearing good things about Metafilter. Maybe it's the solution to my ever-growing problem of what to replace reddit with.

Meta filter has been around for years. Usually troll free, decent answers.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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post #121

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Have you ever tried, like, actually posing a question that you want the answer to?

I have asked a bunch of questions on HN, and, like, actually gotten really good answers to them. Same with stackoverflow. Just because there are people on quora that answer questions well doesn't mean that they don't partake in questionable business practices and that you can find the answers elsewhere.

HN is not a Q&A site, neither is Reddit. StackOvereflow is focussed on narrow topics (and moderated by Nazis). That leaves plenty of room for a site like Quora which is oriented around finding answers to questions you have on any serious topic. Other sites might have better matereial when you do a direct comparison, but that's like saying a book of essays by Richard Feynman is always more interesting than looking the same topic up in Encyclopedia Britannica.
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