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Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by cube13 »

keithnoizu wrote: post #10
katabatic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Features are one thing - yes, nearly all IDEs have lots of the same features. But that looks like they copied XCode 4's appearance directly. It's a pity the screenshots are so low resolution - hopefully some higher resolution shots of the Samsung software will turn up. But even in this example it's easy to spot lifted design elements: * The centered tab selector buttons in the title bar of each pane * The overall sty…

And que the return of the look feel wars of the early 90s.

Which is a silly thing to copy. Visual studio has a different color scheme than XCode, and both have different color schemes than Eclipse.

The iconography is similar(i.e. use of a "play" button for running the debugger), but the actual buttons are definitely different between XCode, VS, and Eclipse. XCode uses the iTunes-like circular black triangle on a grey circle button. VS uses a green triangle. Eclipse uses a green circle with a white arrow.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by anshargal »

agscala wrote: post #2

There are a few similarities, but really a lot of these features that any capable IDE should have

As a person who use Xcode every day, I can tell that the right column indeed looks extremely similar to Xcode. Especially widget panel and property editor. Of course there are a lot of features that any capable IDE should have, but the overall look can't be so coincidental. Sorry.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by jmduke »

cmelbye wrote: post #17
jmduke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A screenshot of Eclipse that I grabbed off Google Images: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_i... I don't use a lot of IDEs, but I honestly can't see any substantial distinctions between any of the three. (And no, I don't consider centering a pane a distinction.)

Oh, come on. http://i.imgur.com/8uL8M.png vs http://cl.ly/IjBC http://i.imgur.com/2Kn4j.png vs http://cl.ly/Iiob http://i.imgur.com/RYYv9.png vs http://cl.ly/IiWX We're not talking similar features here, we're talking lazy carbon-copied user interfaces. You honestly think this was accidental and there's only one way to make an IDE? EDIT: A few more, now that we have a hi-res screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/SYSv2.png v…

You honestly think this was accidental and there's only one way to make an IDE?

I honestly don't know. I don't use any IDE on a regular basis.

Judging by the relative quality of your screenshots, you use XCode -- is it possible that you'd be able to point out such similarities between any two IDEs, given the presumption that one IDE must be copying from another due to a current lawsuit?

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by chmod775 »

Edit: As I said, it's not even Java: http://www.imaso.co.kr/data/article/15%283%29.png

Apparently it's made by Samsung. I see some Samsung logo on this website:

http://www.imaso.co.kr/?doc=bbs/gnuboard.php&bo_table=ar... From what I understand it's a SDK for Samsung Smart TV's

http://www.imaso.co.kr/data/article/17(2).png

>Some probably shooped image with a small resolution

>Some asian language

>No proof it's made by Samsung

>2 lines of description posted in a in a mac forum

This sounds totally legit.

I want to remind you guys of the current top post at the front page: http://day4.se/how-we-screwed-almost-the-whole-apple-communi...

Don't believe everything. We do not even know if Samsung made it or if it has anything to do with android.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by cmelbye »

For comparison...

Samsung's IDE: http://www.imaso.co.kr/data/article/15%283%29.png

Xcode: http://cl.ly/Ijas

Of course, as Samsung apologists will tell you, this was a pure accident on Samsung's part. Everyone knows there's only one way to design an IDE. Anyone designing one will eventually end up with a carbon-copy of Xcode.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by csarva »

Zarathust wrote: post #19

About every IDE that support dockable panels can be customized to look like this. They can also be reorganized to look entirely different. Quick, find the patent for dockable panels and sue everyone!

Well, since you mention it.. this happened back in 2000 when Adobe sued Macromedia over "copied" IDE elements (before eventually buying them out..).

http://www.pcworld.com/article/18000/adobe_sues_macromedia.h...

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Post by katabatic »

jmduke wrote: post #23
cmelbye wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, come on. http://i.imgur.com/8uL8M.png vs http://cl.ly/IjBC http://i.imgur.com/2Kn4j.png vs http://cl.ly/Iiob http://i.imgur.com/RYYv9.png vs http://cl.ly/IiWX We're not talking similar features here, we're talking lazy carbon-copied user interfaces. You honestly think this was accidental and there's only one way to make an IDE? EDIT: A few more, now that we have a hi-res screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/SYSv2.png v…

You honestly think this was accidental and there's only one way to make an IDE? I honestly don't know. I don't use any IDE on a regular basis. Judging by the relative quality of your screenshots, you use XCode -- is it possible that you'd be able to point out such similarities between any two IDEs, given the presumption that one IDE must be copying from another due to a current lawsuit?

> is it possible that you'd be able to point out such similarities between any two IDEs

Not down to the level of design elements that appear to have been copied here. As someone who does use XCode, Visual Studio, IntelliJ, and PyCharm all on a regular basis, I can tell you that they all look very distinct visually. They all have pretty much the same feature set, but they're absolutely distinguishable at a glance visually. It is definitely not inevitable that IDEs look the same.

Interestingly, the Samsung IDE is a Windows application. The standard practice would be to match the look and feel of the native platform the IDE runs on, but that is clearly not the case here.

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