This sparked an idea for me that I think I'll implement going forward - if you sign up with your email address and password, my server will try to login to your email account with those credentials, and if successful, say something like "hey, did you see that email [snippet of first email in inbox]". I feel this might encourage the user to use a different password.
Enforcing Different Passwords for Different Sites
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#22This sparked an idea for me that I think I'll implement going forward - if you sign up with your email address and password, my server will try to login to your email account with those credentials, and if successful, say something like "hey, did you see that email [snippet of first email in inbox]". I feel this might encourage the user to use a different password.
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#23This sparked an idea for me that I think I'll implement going forward - if you sign up with your email address and password, my server will try to login to your email account with those credentials, and if successful, say something like "hey, did you see that email [snippet of first email in inbox]". I feel this might encourage the user to use a different password.
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#24It's a nice idea, but in practice, it would drive you insane because the web is not a nice uniform entity where everyone plays by a pre-arranged set of rules.
Just use LastPass and let it autogenerate passwords for you. It's stupid easy, and super effective. LastPass will even tell you how many sites you're using the same passwords on! ( https://lastpass.com/index.php?securitychallenge=1&fromw... )
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#26I'm no expert, but why does this have to be done on the password level? Why can't we just assign usernames to our own sites, and force people to login with those? I know that's incredibly annoying for a user, but it would at least guarantee the user credentials for your site are unique from any other site.
This would mean that there are two "passwords" that I have to remember - the userid and the actual password. Chances are, your site isn't worth it to remember a new uid. (I counted that only 5 out of my 150 stored account passwords are for something worth remembering anything at all.) If you are important (say, paypal or gmail) - do two factor authentification. If you are not - don't bother me. Even creating an accou…
* insist it's the username,
* insist it is in the password somewhere, or
* make them type the string in a third logon field
It adds friction to the process in order to solve a problem that is not "ours" to solve.
An option with less friction would be to ask them to choose a picture from 16 candidates. The 16 candidate photos would need to be generated from the username to avoid the ability to refresh the page and find the persistent image. Each image could have the random characters associated with it to be used as an addendum to the salt, or for whatever purposes on the back end which the random characters are supposed to accomplish.
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#27I'll say it again, just use a password manager. It generates random, complex passwords. It memorizes them for you. It pre-populates forms. They are locally encrypted and can be synced by themselves or with other tools. They can even be protected with two factor auth.
My mother uses LastPass. So can you.
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#28Big ol' hole here: You can't identify web apps by domain. Are you going to tell me I can't use "password123" as my password on store.foo.com and secure.foo.com (when they both point to the same database and the same user record)? Are you going to assume that passwords may be shared across all TLDs? (so I can re-use passwords on multiple separate apps on the same TLD) It's a nice idea, but in practice, it would drive…
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#29I cry everytime I read these threads on HN. I've never seen such stubborness than people desperately convinced that they need to be able to memorize their passwords, or that password managers are the devil. I'll say it again, just use a password manager. It generates random, complex passwords. It memorizes them for you. It pre-populates forms. They are locally encrypted and can be synced by themselves or with other t…
This is not about us.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, but those people are the one percent. How do we help the vast majority?
Other than education and pushing them to use a secure password manager, I'm not sure, but the solution shouldn't involve breaking existing and secure systems which are widely used even if only by a minority of users.