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Re: Smart Notebooks: Building a Better Shared Document

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Post by bungle » Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 6:46 PM UTC

I'm not sure about totally new document format. But I would like to see something new in file collaboration. A system that is distributed, and standardized (a new protocol for file collaboration, something like http but for binary blobs, p2p is a nice start but something that works better for enterprise collaboration).

Cloud services in this space are nice but they are all centrally managed. And collaboration between different centralized systems doesn't work (say between SharePoint, and Google Drive).

Re: Smart Notebooks: Building a Better Shared Document

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Post by mfidelman » Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 6:56 PM UTC

bungle wrote: post #11

I'm not sure about totally new document format. But I would like to see something new in file collaboration. A system that is distributed, and standardized (a new protocol for file collaboration, something like http but for binary blobs, p2p is a nice start but something that works better for enterprise collaboration). Cloud services in this space are nice but they are all centrally managed. And collaboration between…

We're trying to use a standardized document format. Building on Atom. Should be able to read serialized format in any blog reader. Microformats will be used to add structure, and JavaScript library will take feed, order elements, and select versions for presentation. Add a little CSS for additional presentation elements (e.g., of an action item list).

Re: Smart Notebooks: Building a Better Shared Document

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Post by ralfn » Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 7:49 PM UTC

qq66 wrote: post #10

LiveLoop ( http://getliveloop.com ) is a PowerPoint plugin that delivers most of the benefits described here (real-time, supports offline, and arbitrarily shareable), with the benefit of working from directly within Microsoft Office. Any number of collaborators can see each other's edits in true keystroke-by-keystroke real-time. Anyone who signs up from this comment and sends me a feedback email at amal@getliveloop.c…

Microsoft Office is inherently collaboration unfriendly. It adds platform incompatibilities on top of inertia (which is likely the biggest obstacle).

Re: Smart Notebooks: Building a Better Shared Document

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Post by bungle » Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 6:12 AM UTC

mfidelman wrote: post #12

bungle wrote: post #11

I'm not sure about totally new document format. But I would like to see something new in file collaboration. A system that is distributed, and standardized (a new protocol for file collaboration, something like http but for binary blobs, p2p is a nice start but something that works better for enterprise collaboration). Cloud services in this space are nice but they are all centrally managed. And collaboration between…

We're trying to use a standardized document format. Building on Atom. Should be able to read serialized format in any blog reader. Microformats will be used to add structure, and JavaScript library will take feed, order elements, and select versions for presentation. Add a little CSS for additional presentation elements (e.g., of an action item list).

I know that. But if you want this to work on broader scale the system needs to support all the files regardless of their format. I'm not saying that what you are proposing is useless, it is just a more vertical solution for a specific needs. Not a general solution for file collaboration problems.