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You wouldn't steal a font

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Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#11
Can someone explain to me how you determine if a font is ripped/stolen?

I was under the impression that fonts are just a collection of line arc/points.

So is this a probabilistic comparison in that, if all of the line arc/points match another font - the chances are high it was ripped?

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#12

That is an absolutely brilliant turn of events – strong evidence that the font in an anti-piracy campaign was itself arguably a copyright-infringing knock-off. Someone should sue FACT for copyright infringement – and refuse to settle.

You can't copyright a font.

A typeface design, in the U.S., no, but the digital font file comprising outline data and instructions, according to current U.S. law, for an overview of current case law and a proposal see:

https://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/chtlj/vol10/iss1/5/

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#13
I don’t think that’s productive. Best case response that I can imagine is piracy opponents pushing for some legislation mandating fonts with DRM.

Air quotes - “it’s obviously the fault of the person who cloned the font and the general public needs to be protected against such content” - end air quotes.

At the same time, it doesn’t have to be productive, it’s funny enough.

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#14
Very early in my design education (late 90's) I was taught that fonts are fonts and the more you have, the better you tool set would be. As a graphic designer I definitely made things with fonts I had downloaded. It wasn't till I got my first serious design job at an agency where I quickly learned about purchasing and licensing fonts. Even if I could "find" a missing font, I wasn't allowed to use it. We needed to get the fonts directly from the vendor we were working with and if they were being too slow, we ate the cost and purchased the font.

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't copyright a font.

They absolutely are copyrighted and big money.

You can, entirely legally, make a copy of any font and distribute it freely.

You can't copy the font files themselves, but you can make visually indistinguishable new fonts with the same shapes because the shapes are not protected by copyright.

Additionally though, some fonts have design patents, which does protect the shape. Unlike copyright which has absolutely crazy expiration (like 150 years occasionally?) these patents only cover 15 to 20 years or shorter if abandoned.

An example of Apple patenting a font valid 2017 to 2032: https://patents.google.com/patent/USD786338S1/en

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#16
The moral background for copyright is in free fall these days.

It is quickly turning into one of these things that there are laws for, and everyone thinks it is rediculous, it is never enforced and DE facto not a law.

And what a shame that is.

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#17

Can someone explain to me how you determine if a font is ripped/stolen? I was under the impression that fonts are just a collection of line arc/points. So is this a probabilistic comparison in that, if all of the line arc/points match another font - the chances are high it was ripped?

In this case, per the link:

> went sleuthing and quickly found a PDF from the campaign site with the font embedded

So, the PDF had the font Xband Rough embedded inside of it.

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#18

Very early in my design education (late 90's) I was taught that fonts are fonts and the more you have, the better you tool set would be. As a graphic designer I definitely made things with fonts I had downloaded. It wasn't till I got my first serious design job at an agency where I quickly learned about purchasing and licensing fonts. Even if I could "find" a missing font, I wasn't allowed to use it. We needed to get…

It's even harder to get away with pirating fonts now with web fonts. Either the service can detect you pulling a font for a domain that isn't paying for it or webcrawlers will find unpaid fonts.

Re: You wouldn't steal a font

#19
What saddens me is that a lot of people are so ignorant that they don't even realize a font is something that takes creativity, tradecraft and a lot of work/time/effort to design.
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