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Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by surgical_fire »

bboygravity wrote: post #156
nuthje wrote: post #116

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> Fines imposed on undertakings found in breach of EU antitrust rules are paid into the general EU budget. This money is not earmarked for particular expenses, but Member States' contributions to the EU budget for the following year are reduced accordingly. The fines therefore help to finance the EU and reduce the burden for taxpayers. This quote is re: anti-trust, but likely generalizes. https://competition-policy.e…

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Please, enlighten me how exactly is the EU not democratic.

I am very sure you have excellent arguments to support this claim.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by socalgal2 »

_mlbt wrote: post #53
londons_explore wrote: post #46

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The EU should instead set targets. Ie. "More than half of users have installed at least one app from a non-apple affiliated store by Jan 2026 or you shall pay a fine of $10 per month per iPhone in use in the EU".

That’s a terrible idea. How would they have any control over that. I think you are way overestimating the amount of iOS users that want to use software from outside the App Store.

That really depends on the store. If Value made a Steam store, or Nintendo made a Nintendo store with Nintendo exclusives I'd expect millions of installs.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by socalgal2 »

_mlbt wrote: post #240
londons_explore wrote: post #150

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If 3rd party stores didn't charge the Apple tax, I think you'd find plenty of apps moving to other stores, and within a matter of weeks more than half of users would have used a 3rd party store.

That’s my worst nightmare. On my iPhone I want the equivalent of Spotify, not Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Max, etc.

I want the equivalent of a shops in the real world. One shop doesn't carry everything. Even Spotify doesn't carry everything. For one, Apple doesn't allow adult content apps. Steam does. I'm sure there's a market for adult games on iPhone as Steam's success there would seem to suggest. I don't think Apple should be required to sell adult games but I also don't think they should get to dictate that people can't use their phones for adult games. So, more stores would great.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by blitzar »

jdminhbg wrote: post #266
blitzar wrote: post #142

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Pay or have your information harvested and sold. Its extortion.

You’re missing a third option there, which makes it not extortion.

If the third way is "don't use the product" facebook have that covered too... they will harvest and sell your personal information.

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Post by sheepdestroyer »

_mlbt wrote: post #240
londons_explore wrote: post #150

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If 3rd party stores didn't charge the Apple tax, I think you'd find plenty of apps moving to other stores, and within a matter of weeks more than half of users would have used a 3rd party store.

That’s my worst nightmare. On my iPhone I want the equivalent of Spotify, not Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Max, etc.

It's a bit of a false comparison, since you wouldn't have to pay monthly subscriptions to others stores as you have to for streaming services.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by miohtama »

robinwohlers wrote: post #9
izacus wrote: post #8

The EU Comission press release: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_...

It’s funny to see a “share this page on Facebook” option at the bottom of the press release.

EU comission has been fined for breaching GDPR they designed themselves

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/first-eu-court-fines-eu...

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by StewardMcOy »

jdminhbg wrote: post #266
blitzar wrote: post #142

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Pay or have your information harvested and sold. Its extortion.

You’re missing a third option there, which makes it not extortion.

I may be misreading it, but I believe the third option the EU is expects from Meta is non-targeted advertising.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

tantalor wrote: post #208
tremon wrote: post #194

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No, the EU has made it illegal to extort payment before allowing people to opt-out of data collection or profiling.

Extortion is a stretch. Nobody is being forced to use these services.

Tell that to the embedded Facebook trackers ubiquitous throughout the web

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by epolanski »

surgical_fire wrote: post #271
bboygravity wrote: post #156

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Please, enlighten me how exactly is the EU not democratic. I am very sure you have excellent arguments to support this claim.

We can't elect a single official to reverse and destroy decades of work without any parliamentary debate, I guess that makes EU non democratic as opposed to the brilliant US example.

Re: Apple and Meta fined millions for breaching EU law

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Post by zmgsabst »

mapcars wrote: post #117

> while Meta drew a penalty of €200 million for its "pay or consent" advertising model, which requires that European Union users pay to access ad-free versions of Facebook and Instagram Wait, isn't pretty much all web content is like this nowadays? You have to buy youtube premium to avoid ads, how is it different?

YouTube allows you to disable personalized ads.

https://www.youtube.com/intl/en_us/howyoutubeworks/user-sett...

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