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America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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> It's the global catalog that helps everyone – security teams, software vendors, researchers, governments – organize and talk about vulnerabilities using the same reference system so why was only the US federal government funding it, especially if it wasn't expensive to maintain? this is the follow up question to every headline and won't be seen as controversial later, so why bother treating it as controversial to s…

I think others have already stated about the U.S. having a leadership position by running this...So i'll just comment on the the funding of this DB. I mean, sure, i'm all for optimizing things...but it strikes me that some decisions by the current U.S. administration - like not wanting to fund this - seem very penny wise and pound foolish. Like, for whatever it costs to run this DB (and i truly have no idea of the costs), i bet you that the operational benefits to U.s. companies, organizations is well worth the spend. Separate of any political benefits, i'm referring to hard and tactical benefits that arise from this existing. Someone is simply looking at a long list of items on a budget, not understanding that each item might have different weights, values, etc...and simply slashing like a toddler...and either not caring the ramifications, or not understanding them (or secondary trickle effects).

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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Has the U.S. ever claimed to be the leader of the world? I do not think any country has ever claimed that title. The closest to it would be some of the remarks that are supposedly made to each Pope upon becoming Pope. That said, there is the similar sounding title called “the leader of the free world” applied to the U.S. president since the end of WWII. I always thought that was the result of military alliances, not…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World

Leader of the world and leader of the free world are two different things. As far as I know, no country in the past century has called itself either of them. I would not be surprised if the title was applied to countries such as the Imperium Romanum and 中國 in the distant past. Even more distant would be possibly Greece given that it’s leader was called the King of Kings around the time of Troy.

However, I believe both titles are applied to specific office holders in the modern day. The U.S. president is called the leader of the free world by many. I believe the title leader of the world is bestowed upon the Pope during Papal inaugurations.

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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> It's the global catalog that helps everyone – security teams, software vendors, researchers, governments – organize and talk about vulnerabilities using the same reference system so why was only the US federal government funding it, especially if it wasn't expensive to maintain? this is the follow up question to every headline and won't be seen as controversial later, so why bother treating it as controversial to s…

Well, we did make the damn thing in the first place.

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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As opposed to who else funding it?

The UN? Make it an international cooperative effort?

Ahh, yes, this is exactly how one goes about making it a cooperative effort, which is something this administration is clearly an expert at doing.

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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Funding is irrelevant and a distraction. Dismantling civil cybersecurity is a way to expose a population to influence and other harms that necessitate more "strong-man" solutions later [0,1]. Only after they've destroyed "cyber defenses" can they claim a crisis and declare "cybsersecurity is dead, long live the new cybersecurity". And you can be damn sure it won't be security for you.

[0] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/computer-security-is-a-polit...

[1] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/usw/

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World

Leader of the world and leader of the free world are two different things. As far as I know, no country in the past century has called itself either of them. I would not be surprised if the title was applied to countries such as the Imperium Romanum and 中國 in the distant past. Even more distant would be possibly Greece given that it’s leader was called the King of Kings around the time of Troy. However, I believe bot…

With all due respect, you're being pedantic. No, we're not talking about official titles bestowed from on high. The US has been considered the world leader from WW2 until sometime in the 21st century, partly because nobody else wanted to claim it, partly because American foreign policy is aggressive, partly because the American economy was the most robust on in the aftermath of WW2.

Re: America's cyber defenses are being dismantled from the inside

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The UN? Make it an international cooperative effort?

Ahh, yes, this is exactly how one goes about making it a cooperative effort, which is something this administration is clearly an expert at doing.

Your snark misses the fact that the program has been funded by the US for 25 years and the decision to not make it a UN project has nothing to do with the current administration.
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