Solidjs: Simple and performant reactivity for building user interfaces

Post by loxs » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 9:49 AM UTC

imiric wrote: post #83

loxs wrote: post #69

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Funny. To me JSX is a much superior language compared to HTML templating. And I would say it's provably so. You can do JSX-in-JS-in-JSX recursively in a way that is "natural" and "safe" and "maintainable". And with TypeScript you get great IDE support, ability to refactor and whatnot. No need to trust my word, just look at the huge amount of code in JSX that the world is maintaining at the moment. I would say the onl…

JSX is a huge conceptual mistake, IMO. Sure, it gives you expressiveness, flexibility, and templating for "free", but this comes at the expense of the separation of concerns principle, which is a bad tradeoff. HTML is concerned with the content and structure of the page. JS is concerned with behaviour and interactivity. Using JS, or any programming language for that matter, to control how HTML is rendered introduces…

Post by division_by_0 » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 9:59 AM UTC

ryansolid wrote: post #84

k__ wrote: post #76

Genuine question: Why would you use Solid instead of Svelte? I'm coming from React and most alternatives seem quite similar to me. Only Svelte does things very differently with its compiler. Vue and Solid just seem to be a different flavour of React.

Ironically, mechanically Vue and Svelte historically were much closer to React. Vue has a similar VDOM and Svelte while compiled still had a rerun component model. It was only the past year about 6 years after Solid showed the way Svelte 5, and Vue Vapor got away from that and now compile down to what more or less Solid has been doing all along. Of course this is under the surface. But in many ways while Solid itself…

Post by MrJohz » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 10:34 AM UTC

conradfr wrote: post #72

MrJohz wrote: post #61

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Both use signal-based reactivity, both are heavily optimised at compile-time to ensure only the parts of your app that need to well change at runtime. Vue uses single-file components, SolidJS uses JSX. That has a surprisingly large influence on how you develop with the frameworks, because it's a lot easier to create new components if those components are just regular Javascript functions, as opposed to being new file…

As someone that likes Vue and prefers templates that lost me at JSX. Which is of course entirely a matter of preference.

Post by exceptione » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 10:47 AM UTC

  - functional: components are pure functions 
    (with caveats 1. as much as possible; 2. from a dev experience)

  - large component libraries. High quality, battle tested, and well documented.

Post by richrichardsson » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 11:07 AM UTC

thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #4

Portions of the react community are excited about how it's starting to feel more like PHP with the movement towards server actions in "client" code etc I personally don't like that direction so looking forward to exploring new frameworks. What I've generally liked about React/Next setups is that the code is generally explicit and less magic (I also have gripes with hooks feeling like magic). Things like Vue/Svelte wh…