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How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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I agree that the title implies (or even declares) that it takes fewer than 21 days. I'd argue that the articles says that it does take those 21 days, plus many more, making the title deceptive.

Exactly, English semantics dictate that if it takes more than 21 days it must first take 21 days.

There is a very clearly implied only in the title. I agree that it should be included but it is unnecessary to convey the meaning imo.

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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It took me 3 days to fully drop sugar from coffee, at 17 I think. Never liked sweets and pastry, though, but dropping every sugar drink took me more, a couple weeks, specially Nestea. Edit: took me 1 day to drop the remaining sugar, and plants in general.

You don’t eat plants? That’s interesting, could you share more?

No sugar and no plants means something like keto/carnivore diets.

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, English semantics dictate that if it takes more than 21 days it must first take 21 days.

There is a very clearly implied only in the title. I agree that it should be included but it is unnecessary to convey the meaning imo.

There is not. I too assumed it must mean it takes less, otherwise there would be an "only", or "It takes more than".

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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>"If you’re trying a new diet, attempting to quit smoking or changing any daily routine, don’t expect new habits to be created in a week, or two or even three. Research suggests that the process requires 66 days (on average) and up to 8 months." Something about the title suggested it was going to be much less than 21 days; maybe it's the domain name biasing my reading of the title.

I agree that the title implies (or even declares) that it takes fewer than 21 days. I'd argue that the articles says that it does take those 21 days, plus many more, making the title deceptive.

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Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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It took me a few days to become a smoker, and a few weeks to get to the point of not wanting to smoke again (some decades later). It took me a week or so to start having a healthier breakfast and it become part of my routine, and I've been trying to have healthier lunches for years now (and still regularly fail, normally because at lunchtimes I'm tired, stressed and yearning for comfort foods like sandwiches and snac…

What is your healthier breakfast? I never really learned what is considered a healthy breakfast.

Mine is a bowl of old fashion oats, frozen mixed fruit (I like a blueberry/blackberry mix), and maybe some non-fat plain greek yogurt and/or a glass a of plain soy milk.

Alternatively, a couple of scrambled eggs with a piece of toast and a bananna is fairly healthy.

A fried egg on an English muffin also isn't a terrible way to start the day.

Target ~400 cals, Try and get some protein and fiber in there. Watch out for saturated fats and high sodium (see the DASH diet for tips). If you are diabetic or risk diabetes, check out the glycemic index and shoot for low GI foods.

That'd be my advice (I'm not a doctor, what I'm suggesting could be 1000% wrong.)

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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>"If you’re trying a new diet, attempting to quit smoking or changing any daily routine, don’t expect new habits to be created in a week, or two or even three. Research suggests that the process requires 66 days (on average) and up to 8 months." Something about the title suggested it was going to be much less than 21 days; maybe it's the domain name biasing my reading of the title.

There's a tendency sometimes to leave certain words implicit. "It does not [even] take 21 days to form a habit." Some of those linguistic habits never leave their birthplace, giving you colloquialisms like "do you want to come with [us]" in the Midwest. Most don't have any regional association though, and sentences with dropped fragments sound perfectly normal, with your mind filling in the gaps.

In this case, the sentence is correct (though ambiguous) as written, but it has the same words you often see from a longer phrase with an omitted word implied through tone and other vocal cues, a pattern used commonly enough that I'd wager most people interpret it the same as you.

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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>"If you’re trying a new diet, attempting to quit smoking or changing any daily routine, don’t expect new habits to be created in a week, or two or even three. Research suggests that the process requires 66 days (on average) and up to 8 months." Something about the title suggested it was going to be much less than 21 days; maybe it's the domain name biasing my reading of the title.

I agree that the title implies (or even declares) that it takes fewer than 21 days. I'd argue that the articles says that it does take those 21 days, plus many more, making the title deceptive.

How I understood it, “form” here means that a habit has been formed.

As in: “Habits aren’t formed in 21 days“, just like “Rome wasn’t built in one day”.

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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> I wish I knew how I did it, because I've been unable to regain that same "this is just what I do now and it's fine" level of acceptance that seemed to be the key. Sometimes it’s as simple as “doesn’t hurt enough yet” My grandpa was a liter of wine per day (or more) kinda guy. Then he hit his 70’s and it didn’t feel good anymore. So he stopped and hasn’t had a glass of alcohol since. Just doesn’t feel like it. Even…

Actually making decisions is pretty great. I quit a really heavy nicotine addiction by simply deciding I wasn't going to use nicotine anymore.

There are different kinds of dependencies; the human brain needs nicotine to function properly, more than you get from modern food. Not recommending tobacco, nor big pharma crap, there are supplements.

Re: How long does it take to create a new habit? (2015)

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It took me a few days to become a smoker, and a few weeks to get to the point of not wanting to smoke again (some decades later). It took me a week or so to start having a healthier breakfast and it become part of my routine, and I've been trying to have healthier lunches for years now (and still regularly fail, normally because at lunchtimes I'm tired, stressed and yearning for comfort foods like sandwiches and snac…

What is your healthier breakfast? I never really learned what is considered a healthy breakfast.

I think part of the problem is we don't really know what a healthy diet looks like. We can point to what is probably unhealthy: eating tons of sugar filled items is probably bad, eating a lot of fried food is at least questionable, but beyond that we really don't know. The research is either poorly done, impossible to do, or you can find studies that go both ways.
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