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Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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Has Microsoft done away with folders in their upcoming OS? Just curious. What about the file systems of other OS's out there?

It is indeed true that folders are the least efficient aspect of operating systems but it is strange that we're still holding on to them.

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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Has Microsoft done away with folders in their upcoming OS? Just curious. What about the file systems of other OS's out there? It is indeed true that folders are the least efficient aspect of operating systems but it is strange that we're still holding on to them.

Windows 8 still has folders.

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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Has Microsoft done away with folders in their upcoming OS? Just curious. What about the file systems of other OS's out there? It is indeed true that folders are the least efficient aspect of operating systems but it is strange that we're still holding on to them.

No. Metro is just an interface.

Curious, how would an OS work with no folders? All the system files just have a "system" tag?

Personally, I've learned folders. Now I have trouble thinking about a filesystem that wouldn't have them. How would you organize files on a physical disk with no file structure?

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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While I do like tags for myself, they are also inherently problematic with a group. I tag a photo of my friend "Chardo" (his nickname). Friend #2 tags another photo of him "Richard" (his real name). Now viewing all items tagged "Richard" won't show all the photos of Richard. (Replace human names with names of places, descriptions ["bbq" vs "tom's party"], etc)

Do you have any plans for how to address this?

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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Tags are good in conjunction with folders, because they provide another way to search when you forget where a file is, and you don't remember the file name.

But folders are really good at collecting files with a similar purpose together. Does a good tagging system have a notion of a "collection" or something, instead of just categories and tags. If so, it just seems like folders by a different name. Moving away from folders entirely, I would be wary of losing track of some seldom-used files completely.

But maybe this is just as much about how files are stored on disk, and disk efficiency.

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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People have known that folders are doomed for a while now. For instance, it's been part of Gmail's core philosophy since it was launched 8 years. The question is when the major operating systems are going to phase it out from the user experience. (Presumably, folder hierarchies will still exist under the hood.)

Re: Why Folders are holding back hassle-free File Management & Tags are the Future.

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post #5

Has Microsoft done away with folders in their upcoming OS? Just curious. What about the file systems of other OS's out there? It is indeed true that folders are the least efficient aspect of operating systems but it is strange that we're still holding on to them.

No. Metro is just an interface. Curious, how would an OS work with no folders? All the system files just have a "system" tag? Personally, I've learned folders. Now I have trouble thinking about a filesystem that wouldn't have them. How would you organize files on a physical disk with no file structure?

You can do away with folders in the user experience without getting rid of them under the hood. They are pretty indispensable for how software is structured.
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