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Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by lazide »

j45 wrote: post #96
Renaud wrote: post #90

Synology isn't about the NAS hardware and OS. Once setup, it doesn't really matter as long as your config is reliable and fast, so there are many competitive options to move to. The killer feature for me is the app ecosystem. I have a very old 8-bay Synology NAS and have it setup in just a few clicks to backup my dropbox, my MS365 accounts, my Google business accounts, do redundant backup to external drive, backup im…

Other manufacturers like Qnap also have this app ecosystem. It doesn’t address the mandatory nature of drives when at most dell and hp have put their part number on drives for the most part.

The issue is QNAP has terrible quality/stability at the OS level compared to Synology (also with Apps).

The number of times I’ve broken things on QNAP systems doing what should be normal functionality, only to find out it’s because of some dumb implementation detail is over a dozen. Synology, maybe 1-2.

Roughly the same number of systems/time in use too.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by benoau »

NL807 wrote: post #86
Marsymars wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re really best off not trying to lump together your Plex server and your NAS on the same box. You can use an odroid H4 or any cheapo Alder Lake-N laptop for your Plex server, and any NAS solution to store the media.

>You’re really best off not trying to lump together your Plex server and your NAS on the same box. Why not? If you are not going to do transcoding, Plex should sit fine on a NAS.

Basically an archaic idea that a NAS has to be only good at one thing which is just file sharing.

It's hard to actually buy a computer that bad these days, although Synology still makes it easy lol.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by asteroidburger »

joshstrange wrote: post #14
PeterStuer wrote: post #13

I currently run 2 Synology NAS's in my setup. I am very satisfied with their performance, but nevertheless I will be phasing them out because their offerings are not evolving in line with customer satisfaction but with profit maximization through segmentation and vertical lock-in.

Do you have a plan on what you’re going to move to? I’ve used (and still use) UnRaid before but switched to Synology for my data a while back due to both the plug-and-play nature of their systems (it’s been rock solid for me) and easily accessible hard drive trays. I’ve built 3 UnRaid servers and while I like the software, hardware was always an issue for me. I’d love a 12-bay-style Synology hardware device that I co…

I haven't used them personally so I can't vouch for them, but UGREEN's NAS line is the same form factor as a Synology unit, but it lets you run any OS. I'd probably put straight Debian on mine and handle it all manually as I do now. I wouldn't be surprised if you could put Unraid on it.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by Hikikomori »

romanhn wrote: post #73

Any experiences with Ugreen NAS? They're a new player in the space, but with very compelling hardware offerings, way ahead of Synology. Been meaning to replace my old Drobo setup for years, and Ugreen seems to finally be hitting the sweet point of specs and pricing that I've been looking for.

Had to replace my old micro server recently and was hard not to buy an ugreen, hardware looks nice, decent n100 CPU, software seems ok but wanted to run Linux myself.

Ended up buying a terrmaster DAS instead and connected it with usb to my NUC.

Also considered a NAS enclosure with an n110 mini itx board, would allow you to upgrade it in the future.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by transpute »

lazide wrote: post #111
j45 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other manufacturers like Qnap also have this app ecosystem. It doesn’t address the mandatory nature of drives when at most dell and hp have put their part number on drives for the most part.

The issue is QNAP has terrible quality/stability at the OS level compared to Synology (also with Apps). The number of times I’ve broken things on QNAP systems doing what should be normal functionality, only to find out it’s because of some dumb implementation detail is over a dozen. Synology, maybe 1-2. Roughly the same number of systems/time in use too.

> QNAP has terrible quality/stability at the OS level

Some QNAP devices can be coaxed into running Debian.

https://wiki.qnap.com/wiki/Debian_Installation_On_QNAP

https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/QNAP

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by mtillman »

locusm wrote: post #115

The only moat Synology have is their software. How far is Truenas from catching up?

In my opinion, truenas is already caught up if you understand hardware and networking basics. The more advanced you are, the more likely truenas is right for you until you’re eventually ready for a proper zfs+bsd. The other nice thing about truenas is it does what you tell it to do in my experience.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by trumpeta »

The reason I chose Synology over others was their SHR "filesystem", where you can continue adding heterogeneously sized disks after constructing the FS and it will make the most use possible out of the extra capacity in the new disks. When I researched it ZFS did not yet have the resizing feature merged, now it does, though I think it is still not able to use this extra space.

I'm wondering if anybody has any better recommendations given the requirement of being able to add storage capacity without having to completely recreate the FS.

Re: Synology Lost the Plot with Hard Drive Locking Move

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Post by nehal3m »

transpute wrote: post #116
lazide wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is QNAP has terrible quality/stability at the OS level compared to Synology (also with Apps). The number of times I’ve broken things on QNAP systems doing what should be normal functionality, only to find out it’s because of some dumb implementation detail is over a dozen. Synology, maybe 1-2. Roughly the same number of systems/time in use too.

> QNAP has terrible quality/stability at the OS level Some QNAP devices can be coaxed into running Debian. https://wiki.qnap.com/wiki/Debian_Installation_On_QNAP https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/QNAP

Sure, but don't you lose the app ecosystem then?
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