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Post by bastardoperator »

jonhohle wrote: post #21
jonhohle wrote: post #11

> the beneficent embrace of the American family was always conditional My heart breaks for anyone brought to the US who weren’t given citizenship. I’m well aware of families who didn’t know there were additional steps to perform and often wonder what agencies failed their due diligence in guiding them through that process. Enough people screwed up that it seems absurd to deny citizenship to those who would otherwise…

> Conservative opponents categorize it as an undesirable “immigration bill” and demand that adopted people with criminal records and the many dozen adoptees who have already been deported be excluded from the bill. I’d also like to see a source for this claim. In the house there are 13 republican co-sponsors for the Adoptee Citizenship Act (including my rep). My personal experience is that adoptive parents are overwh…

None of this matters if we do not have due process.

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Post by rubslopes »

camillomiller wrote: post #5

While I appreciate the story, I am honestly confused by The Verge's editorial choices in running a series of articles like this one. I understand it's been 50 years after the end of the American War in Vietnam, but what does it remotely have to do with tech? Why are they publishing this story/these stories? How is it on-brand? Again don't get me wrong. It's great that someone's doing it but... It just feels... wrong…

I have been reading The Verge regularly for more than ten years. There was an increase in political articles since the first election of Trump.

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Post by Legend2440 »

alpha_squared wrote: post #40
Legend2440 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Consider what a clean delineation between tech news and “real” news would mean The old 90s tech magazines like CPU magazine or PC World come to mind. Nothing wrong with that kind of publication, and I wish there was more of it. Not everything has to be about politics.

> The old 90s tech magazines like CPU magazine or PC World come to mind Not to be too facetious, but, where -- uh -- are those magazines today? The internet changed things. Being that hyper-focused on a topic makes for building a good niche, but maybe not a good business.

Where are any magazines today? Journalism is struggling across the board.

This kind of content is still out there, but it’s more on youtube or hackaday or maybe TomsHardware.

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Post by angra_mainyu »

jonhohle wrote: post #11

> the beneficent embrace of the American family was always conditional My heart breaks for anyone brought to the US who weren’t given citizenship. I’m well aware of families who didn’t know there were additional steps to perform and often wonder what agencies failed their due diligence in guiding them through that process. Enough people screwed up that it seems absurd to deny citizenship to those who would otherwise…

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Post by riehwvfbk »

y-curious wrote: post #29

My first experience learning about Operation Babylift was being traumatized by the Christmas episode of Hey Arnold. It's a fascinating situation, saving babies that have no parents because of your actions as a country. I don't like that this article was written in such a negative light. I am sure there were terrible situations, but also, you simply wouldn't be writing about a Vietnamese orphan that died on the street…

Remember kids: when Russia evacuates kids from a war zone it created - that's a war crime, and we put out an international warrant for their president's arrest. When the USA does it - it's a humanitarian operation.

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Post by Judy007 »

As an inter-country adoptee whose parents did not secure my citizenship, I’ve lived with the quiet, unsettling uncertainty of being here legally—but never fully protected.

I didn’t choose this situation, yet I carry its consequences every day.

This isn’t just a paperwork issue—it’s about identity, belonging, and basic dignity.

No adoptee should face the threat of deportation from the only home they've ever known.

The Adoptee Citizenship Act isn’t just a fix—it’s a long-overdue promise America needs to finally keep.

If this matters to you, please consider supporting the cause. Contact Adoptees for Justice and help push the Adoptee Citizenship Act forward: https://www.adopteesforjustice.org/

Thank you for listening — and for caring.

– Judy, an adoptee still waiting for America to catch up with its promises

Re: Out of the Fog

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Post by Judy007 »

As an intercountry adoptee whose parents did not secure my citizenship, I’ve lived with the quiet, unsettling uncertainty of being here legally—but never fully protected.

I didn’t choose this situation, yet I carry its consequences every day.

This isn’t just a paperwork issue—it’s about identity, belonging, and basic dignity.

No adoptee should face the threat of deportation from the only home they've ever known.

The Adoptee Citizenship Act isn’t just a fix—it’s a long-overdue promise America needs to finally keep.

If this matters to you, please consider supporting the cause. Contact Adoptees for Justice and help push the Adoptee Citizenship Act forward: https://www.adopteesforjustice.org/

Thank you for listening—and for caring.

–Judy, an adoptee still waiting for America to catch up with its promises

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