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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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> maximally desirable On Android, my experience has been that new major versions are often unstable / involve some risk of bricking / include feature regressions (dumbing down of multi-task in Android 13 if I remember well). Waiting for a few month before installing a major update, while not optimal for security, is necessary to make sure that the most critical bugs are fixed beforehand. Regarding applications, today…

> Major upgrades Major version upgrades are a different type of upgrade altogether. They are optional while the previous major is still maintained. Minor upgrades is what should always be automatic. > Flash wear No, it doesn't matter. Total write endurance (i.e., the number of bytes written the device is designed to handle under some standard load) is usually a large multiple of the chip size itself - say, 200x-400x,…

> They are optional while the previous major is still maintained.

I don't think there is such a choice on Pixel phones but I'd be happy to be proven wrong. When the next major update is available the phone just asks to update to it every few days (but won't do it without user consent). I don't think there's security updates on a given phone for old major versions when a new one is available (there likely are for older phones that don't get the major update however).

Thank you for your explanations on flash wear, makes sense. Taking a low value of 13TB endurance (64GB times 200), this is still 7GB per day for five years and I don't think app updates can consume that much.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Topical joke 25 years ago

Says someone who has never had to deal with corporate installed malware - ie MDM software.

You're not wrong. Seems hard to blame on MS though.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Says someone who has never had to deal with corporate installed malware - ie MDM software.

You're not wrong. Seems hard to blame on MS though.

Maybe? Could Microsoft have a layer of third party customization between user space and kernel where MDM lives without crashing the operating system like CrowdStrike did?

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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You're not wrong. Seems hard to blame on MS though.

Maybe? Could Microsoft have a layer of third party customization between user space and kernel where MDM lives without crashing the operating system like CrowdStrike did?

Well, that's a good question, but over my head. I'll settle for kind of blaming them a little bit.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Not if it's against the local laws. It's extremely dangerous to condone and think that police officers are entitled to write the rules.

The border officials have wide discretion to deny non-citizen entry in most countries for whatever reason they choose.

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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I hate overnight updates because a dialed one means I have no alarm and will be hours late for work. And yes, this has actually happened to me at least twice.

On Android? It must be an app-specific issue because it's possible for apps to implement alarms so that they work before unlocking the device after a reboot, but I don't know the technical details behind it. I've had that happen a few times and the alarms went off on time but they used the default alarm tune instead of the one I had selected, presumably that data was still encrypted.

Android actually have a special mode for apps that needs to work after a reboot (e.g.: while the FS encryption is still locked), and Alarms is one of the apps that uses this special mode. I don't remember how it is called though so sorry for the lack of sources, you will have to trust me on this one.

The amount of misinformation in this thread is huge though. I generally read every changelog for major Android updates and the amount of engineering going on is amazing. People just assumes that a few things doesn't work while they do.

Unless of course OP is using a custom alarm app this may be true, but then it is the app fault and not Android.

Edit: accordingly to ChatGPT the feature is the WorkManager: https://developer.android.com/topic/libraries/architecture/w.... I can't confirm this but looks correct to me after a quick look at its documentation.

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an ereader even more so

E-reader without e-ink? Might as well use a tablet. I have an attachable light thing for my e-reader as it does not omit any significant light.

Front light works fine with ink on my Kobo Elipsa (A5 size). The area means it is much brighter than my phone
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