RIP, I have given Francis my prayers for his soul and his close ones and everyone who saw him as a leader and a holy figure. God can use anything for the good <3
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With all due respect, massacring civilians because “you have no other choice” is historically not an excuse holding up in courts.
Israel has enormous advantage over Palestinians and while I don’t mind them waging war with Hamas, indiscriminate bombing is not ok and never will be.
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Did you really have to make this comment here on this post?
I think you intentionally wrote it to spark a fire as well.
"systematically massacring tens of thousands with the declared intent of ethnic cleansing"
You know yourself that so many people disagree with you about this and sees this as an outrageous claim.
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#44I think he will be mostly remembered as a terrible politician, first alienating conservatives with progressive policy and then alienating liberals with very questionable opinions on war in Ukraine.
In the end, nobody was really happy with him. On the other hand, he definitely had a will and a spine to stick to his own opinions - I guess that counts for something.
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#45I genuinely liked him, even as an atheist. He seemed to be trying his best to make the world a better place and I can't fault him for that.
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With all due respect, massacring civilians because “you have no other choice” is historically not an excuse holding up in courts. Israel has enormous advantage over Palestinians and while I don’t mind them waging war with Hamas, indiscriminate bombing is not ok and never will be.
> With all due respect, massacring civilians because “you have no other choice” is historically not an excuse holding up in courts.
The thing is, under the rules of war, protected installations (such as residential areas or even hospitals) lose their protection if they are being abused by a warring party for military operations. Otherwise, it would be an open invitation for anyone to do what Hamas did - force the other party between either risking getting shot at or violating rules of war.
No one forced Hamas to embed themselves among civilians. They did that on their own.
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If I follow your logic:
- Israel has to eradicate Hamas as its existence is too much of a threat ("there is no alternative")
- Hamas has embedded itself in the civilian population in Gaza so that they are indistinguishable
- therefore, Israel must eliminate all Gazawis to guarantee its security
So.. Will Israel kill millions to avenge the deaths of thousands?
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#49I wonder whether we will have another Jesuit Pope. Jesuits are supposed to be generally very education focused, more progressive (especially w.r.t science) and stand less on ceremony. I know nothing about how the College of Cardinals work, but if they're anything like other political voting bodies, one of two outcomes are possible: a swing to the Right (and toward tradition), recognizing the current balance of power…
the film Conclave did a very good job at showing the politics and conflicts within the catholic church
I think that is merely skin deep - Catholicism provided an interesting setting or scenery for a story, rather than being the subject.
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#50May he rest in peace