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Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

zomglings wrote: post #6

If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, your billing for Claude Code is hostile to your users. Why doesn’t Claude Code usage count against the same plan that usage of Claude.ai and Claude Desktop are billed against? I upgraded to the $200/month plan because I really like Claude Code but then was so annoyed to find that this upgrade didn’t even apply to my usage of Claude Code. So now I’m not using Claude Code so mu…

Claude Pro and other website/desktop subscription plans are subject to usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code.

Claude Code uses the API interface and API pricing, and writes and edits code directly on your machine, this is a level past simply interacting with a separate chat bot. It seems a little disingenuous to say it's "hostile" to users, when the reality is yeah, you do pay a bit more for more reliable usage tier, for a task that requires it. It also shows you exactly how much it's spent at any point.

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by ghuntley »

zomglings wrote: post #6

If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, your billing for Claude Code is hostile to your users. Why doesn’t Claude Code usage count against the same plan that usage of Claude.ai and Claude Desktop are billed against? I upgraded to the $200/month plan because I really like Claude Code but then was so annoyed to find that this upgrade didn’t even apply to my usage of Claude Code. So now I’m not using Claude Code so mu…

$200/month isn't that much. Folks, I'm hanging around with are spending $100 USD to $500 USD daily as the new norm as a cost of doing business and remaining competitive. That might seem expensive, but it's cheap... https://ghuntley.com/redlining

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by fcoury »

cypherpunks01 wrote: post #11
zomglings wrote: post #6

If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, your billing for Claude Code is hostile to your users. Why doesn’t Claude Code usage count against the same plan that usage of Claude.ai and Claude Desktop are billed against? I upgraded to the $200/month plan because I really like Claude Code but then was so annoyed to find that this upgrade didn’t even apply to my usage of Claude Code. So now I’m not using Claude Code so mu…

Claude Pro and other website/desktop subscription plans are subject to usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code. Claude Code uses the API interface and API pricing, and writes and edits code directly on your machine, this is a level past simply interacting with a separate chat bot. It seems a little disingenuous to say it's "hostile" to users, when the reality is yeah, you do pay a bit mo…

> ... usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code.

Genuinely interested: how's so?

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by [deleted] »

fcoury wrote: post #13
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Pro and other website/desktop subscription plans are subject to usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code. Claude Code uses the API interface and API pricing, and writes and edits code directly on your machine, this is a level past simply interacting with a separate chat bot. It seems a little disingenuous to say it's "hostile" to users, when the reality is yeah, you do pay a bit mo…

> ... usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code. Genuinely interested: how's so?

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Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by sbszllr »

The issue with many of these tips is that they require you use to claude code (or codex cli, doesn't matter) to spend way more time in it, feed it more info, generate more outputs --> pay more money to the LLM provider.

I find LLM-based tools helpful, and use them quite regularly but not 20 bucks+, let alone 100+ per month that claude code would require to be used effectively.

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by jasir »

remoquete wrote: post #5

What's the Gemini equivalent of Claude Code and OpenAI's Codex? I've found projects like reugn/gemini-cli, but Gemini Code Assist seems limited to VS Code?

There's Aider, Plandex and Goose, all of which let you chose various providers and models. Aider also has a well known benchmark[0] that you can check out to help select models.

- Aider - https://aider.chat/ | https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider

- Plandex - https://plandex.ai/ | https://github.com/plandex-ai/plandex

- Goose - https://block.github.io/goose/ | https://github.com/block/goose

[0] https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

fcoury wrote: post #13
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Pro and other website/desktop subscription plans are subject to usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code. Claude Code uses the API interface and API pricing, and writes and edits code directly on your machine, this is a level past simply interacting with a separate chat bot. It seems a little disingenuous to say it's "hostile" to users, when the reality is yeah, you do pay a bit mo…

> ... usage limits that would make it very difficult to use for Claude Code. Genuinely interested: how's so?

Well, I think it'd be pretty irritating to see the message "3 messages remaining until 6PM" while you are in the middle of a complex coding task.

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by m00dy »

ghuntley wrote: post #12
zomglings wrote: post #6

If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, your billing for Claude Code is hostile to your users. Why doesn’t Claude Code usage count against the same plan that usage of Claude.ai and Claude Desktop are billed against? I upgraded to the $200/month plan because I really like Claude Code but then was so annoyed to find that this upgrade didn’t even apply to my usage of Claude Code. So now I’m not using Claude Code so mu…

$200/month isn't that much. Folks, I'm hanging around with are spending $100 USD to $500 USD daily as the new norm as a cost of doing business and remaining competitive. That might seem expensive, but it's cheap... https://ghuntley.com/redlining

Seriously? That’s wild. What kind of CS field could even handle that kind of daily spend for a bunch of people?

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by peterldowns »

manojlds wrote: post #9
peterldowns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also like to know — I think people are using Cursor/Windsurf/Roo(Cline) for IDEs that let you pick the model, but I don't know of a CLI agentic editor that lets you use arbitrary models.

https://aider.chat/

Thanks! Any others, or any thoughts you can share on it?

Re: Claude Code: Best practices for agentic coding

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Post by replwoacause »

zomglings wrote: post #6

If anyone from Anthropic is reading this, your billing for Claude Code is hostile to your users. Why doesn’t Claude Code usage count against the same plan that usage of Claude.ai and Claude Desktop are billed against? I upgraded to the $200/month plan because I really like Claude Code but then was so annoyed to find that this upgrade didn’t even apply to my usage of Claude Code. So now I’m not using Claude Code so mu…

Their API billing in general is hostile to users. I switched completely to Gemini for this reason and haven’t looked back.
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