Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by amosjyng » Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 10:33 AM UTC

Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim
pikuma.com

Re: Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by ngcc_hk » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

I was surprised to see this on pikuma… I guess “ Also... Emacs sucks! ” is ok to end the blog entry. To me it is just hard to use 2-3 figures and it seemed hard for inventory as well. That sucks.

Re: Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by patrickdavey » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:12 PM UTC

I was slightly surprised that they didn't add a mention of neovim.

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Post by jiehong » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:15 PM UTC

Side note: that ADM-3A bears such a beautiful design. I like how its curves are akin to the screen curvature.

Re: Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by nickandbro » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:18 PM UTC

Vim is awesome! For my hobby project, Vimgolf.ai , I am trying to make it easier and more fun to learn vim by being gradually introduced to the different motions. I am eventually trying to create different bots to create a standard of difficulty for each level but that is TBD at the moment.

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Post by qsort » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:27 PM UTC

It's incredible how good of a design Vi is. Try this experiment: Busybox includes a tiny clone of vi with a reduced feature set. It's very stripped down when compared to Vim or even other vi clones, but as a pure text editor it's still more powerful than most modern day IDEs.

I love my Jetbrains IDEs, but you can take my Vim plugin from my cold dead hands :)

Re: Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:29 PM UTC

qsort wrote: post #6

It's incredible how good of a design Vi is. Try this experiment: Busybox includes a tiny clone of vi with a reduced feature set. It's very stripped down when compared to Vim or even other vi clones, but as a pure text editor it's still more powerful than most modern day IDEs . I love my Jetbrains IDEs, but you can take my Vim plugin from my cold dead hands :)

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Re: Understanding the Origins and the Evolution of Vi and Vim

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Post by synergy20 » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:52 PM UTC

patrickdavey wrote: post #3

I was slightly surprised that they didn't add a mention of neovim.

while neovim is great and I intend to switch even, some time down the road, it caused a not-really-compatible fork and diverted the efforts, I wish them to be merged however hard it will be.

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 9:55 PM UTC

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Post by kzrdude » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 10:01 PM UTC

synergy20 wrote: post #8

patrickdavey wrote: post #3

I was slightly surprised that they didn't add a mention of neovim.

while neovim is great and I intend to switch even, some time down the road, it caused a not-really-compatible fork and diverted the efforts, I wish them to be merged however hard it will be.

I am maybe just a year or so down from the switch from vim to neovim, but lua is a game changer. It's like, it's easy to configure stuff yourself now. Better plugins are written because the tools are better, or at least so I'm convinced.

I will make a random comparison to latex vs typst (typesetting software). Both incorporate a programming environment, you can write a program right in your document. The difference is that the tex programming environment is a bit unapproachable and not very similar to other languages you may already know, while typst's equivalent is consistent and more similar to languages you know.