Surprising that IBM still generates _new_ sales and has a dedicated sales workforce.
Must be hard to generate new sales for their deadass mainframe tech.
IBM orders US sales to locate near customers, RTO for cloud staff, DEI purge
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Re: IBM orders US sales to locate near customers, RTO for cloud staff, DEI purge
#42I'm super skeptical of this article, particularly the inclusion of the phrase "DEI purge", which I cannot find attributed to a single quote in the article. There's a memo from CHRO Nickle LaMoreaux that is quoted from, but not linked to, and the memo itself seems like a pretty anodyne statement that doesn't allude to any "DEI purge" or even DEI related firings, even if it is hypocritical[1].
1: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nickle-lamoreaux_dei-diversit...
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#43You know, even if you hired a protected class because of DEI fashion, that doesn't mean you can fire them just because the fashion has changed. The laws protecting them are still there, and I would think announcing "we're getting rid of DEI hires" would be giving a labor lawyer a discrimination case on a plate.
Despite the quotes IBM has not announced "we're getting rid of DEI hires".
Reading the article will give you a fuller understanding of the announcement.
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#44Awful. I hope Red Hat is escaping the tightening gauntlet on this misdeed.
I also wonder about how they are going to manage Hashicorp, a fully remote remote company.
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#45>"DEI Purge" What in the actual fuck is that supposed to mean? Firing black people to make the president happy? As if there were any meaningful amount of "DEI" to "purge" from the tech industry in the first place. Absolutely disgusting.
It typically just means gutting DEI programs, not firing people hired because of them.
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#46Surprising that IBM still generates _new_ sales and has a dedicated sales workforce. Must be hard to generate new sales for their deadass mainframe tech.
They are one of the larger MSPs globally, they own RedHat and Hashicorp, SPSS is the backbone of the global logistics industry, and IBM Cloud does have decent traction in the financial services and logistics space.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're bending the knee. The CEO class loves their own freedom to move about at will but hates the idea that workers have the right to just NOT be in the office. Trump, Musk, and Ramiswamy were all ultra-gung ho about ensuring that as many people with federal jobs were as miserable as possible.
> The CEO class loves their own freedom to move about at will but hates the idea that workers have the right to just NOT be in the office. I don’t know that that is a reasonable take. More appropriate would be to acknowledge that different roles have different needs, depending on who you collaborate with, etc.
Apparently my role could be remote but the company took it away.
I don't think we need to give their good wills. They are just using the economic reality to fuck us, and I'm sure many of us are considering fucking back when the stars are right.
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#48I am curious if anyone can find the text for "IBM's Policy Letter #4" written by IBM's chairman in 1953, which is referenced in this article. I did some searching but all the links I found to the full text were broken. I ask because I think it shows what a Rorschach test the arguments over DEI have become. I at least found one quote from the Policy Letter #4 which stated "It is the policy of this organization to hire…
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#49As a European who used to go "fuck yeah Intel!" "fuck yeah Boeing!" "fuck yeah IBM!" etc... it seems like US companies are going down the drain real fast.
I blame bad management, lack of innovation, poor quality control and of course, general greed...
In this case it is bad management hiding behind RTO/DEI excuses. WFH works for many and especially on "cloud" stuff I do not see the point of having people systematically RTO to... tweak a few config files (most of the time) or change some hardware (some of the time)
I have the example of a friend in IT who was made to drive 4 hours to change.... the default DNS on a Windows machine at a client's.... a phone call would have done it...
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#50Since they seem to just go with the wind of what people want, I'm sure they are itching on building some AI to detect and classify woke