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ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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I uploaded this image that I screenshotted off Google street view (no metadata) and it got with 200m. https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813f55... There is the chat. Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods."

> Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods." That's slightly creepy!

The anthropomorphisation certainly is weird. But the technical aspect seems even weirder. Did OpenAI really build dedicated tools to have their models train on Google Street View? Or do they have generic technology for browsing complex sites like Street view?

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#103

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I uploaded this image that I screenshotted off Google street view (no metadata) and it got with 200m. https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813f55... There is the chat. Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods."

This is the most impressive ChatGPT chat I’ve seen yet. While I theoretically can accept how large-scale probabilistic text generation can lead to this chain of “reasoning”, it really feels like actual intelligence.

Maybe you're right, but I think it's more likely that it had been trained on street view photos and then invented a plausible justification for the guess afterwards (which is something I often see ChatGPT do, when it easily arrives at the correct answer, but gives bullshit explanations for it).

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#104

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I played a round of Geoguessr against it and while it did a shockingly good job compared to what I was expecting, it still lags behind even novice human players. The locations and its guesses were: Bliss, Idaho - Burns, Oregon (273 miles away) Quilleco, Biobio, Chile - Eugene, Oregon (6,411 miles away) Dettighofen, Switzerland - Mühldorf, Germany (228 miles away) Pretoria, South Africa - Johannesburg, South Africa (3…

Okay, I decided to benchmark a bunch of AI models with geoguessr. One round each on diverse world, here's how they did out of 25,000: Claude 3.7 Sonnet: 22,759 Qwen2.5-Max: 22,666 o3-mini-high: 22,159 Gemini 2.5 Pro: 18,479 Llama 4 Maverick: 14,316 mistral-large-latest: 10,405 Grok 3: 5,218 Deepseek R1: 0 command-a-03-2025: 0 Nova Pro: 0

Neat, thanks for doing this!

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#105
It is impressive and it almost located the church in my town properly, although in a neighbouring town. However that showed a lack of understanding because its conclusion about the location came from "reading" a signpost that pointed to that other village. Clearly there would be no signpost in a town pointing to itself. Still impressive and lots of correct observations about the subject like architectural details, roman numerals on the watch face etc.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#106
Geoguesser was already a solved problem. I guarantee you ChatGPT is much worse than current systems designed to play Geoguesser (NMPZ).

Chatbots appear to have some amount of fluid intellgence so they can do impressive tasks with this information, the impressiveness of these tasks will likely increase in the future. But for simply getting a good score on Geoguesser it's not even close to hobby projects let alone state of the art.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#107

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I uploaded this image that I screenshotted off Google street view (no metadata) and it got with 200m. https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813f55... There is the chat. Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods."

> Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods." That's slightly creepy!

They should definitely add that feature.

Tell it your name and then it just looks you up and street views your house, and puts that all into memory.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#108

Meanwhile O3 can not even count rocks in a picture. This is a commonly recurring theme -- ChatGPT does really well at few things considered hard by us but fails miserably at things even a child could do.

It's almost as if this is a non-human intelligence, which presents different strengths and weaknesses than human intelligence.

Is that really so surprising, considering the tremendous differences in underlying hardware and training process?

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

#109
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It wouldn’t shock me if multimodal LLMs were good at GeoGuesser [0], but if we’re being picky, it takes more than a few examples to demonstrate a game is “solved.” I also wonder what kind of data leakage might have been at play, like other people have suggested. To be clear, my point is not that this is unimpressive, just that this doesn’t demonstrate much. (Edit: I should have said, it doesn’t demonstrate what the t…

The examples are cherry-picked. I took a photo outside my office window in a built-up area, o3 thought for 5m 7s (!), and it got the location wrong by 40km. Doesn't look solved to me.

Were you in a Google street view car when you took the photo?

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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post #108

Meanwhile O3 can not even count rocks in a picture. This is a commonly recurring theme -- ChatGPT does really well at few things considered hard by us but fails miserably at things even a child could do.

It's almost as if this is a non-human intelligence, which presents different strengths and weaknesses than human intelligence. Is that really so surprising, considering the tremendous differences in underlying hardware and training process?

Do you not think it is interesting though? If I had asked you three years back which one of counting rocks vs geoguesser would ChatGPT beat humans on would you have answered correctly?
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