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Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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After comparing Gemini Pro and Claude Sonnet 3.7 coding answers side by side a few times, I decided to cancel my Anthropic subscription and just stick to Gemini.

One of the main advantages Anthropic currently has over Google is the tooling that comes with Claude Code. It may not generate better code, and it has a lower complexity ceiling, but it can automatically find and search files, and figure out how to fix a syntax error fast.

I use roo code with Gemini to get similar results for free

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Google has the data and has the hardware, not to mention software and infrastructure talent. Once this Bismarck turns around and it looks like it is, who can parry it for real? They have internet.zip and all the previous versions as well, they have youtube, email, search, books, traffic, maps and business on it, phones and habits around it, even the OG social network, the usenet. It's a sleeping giant starting to wak…

They have the Excel spreadsheets of all startups and businesses of the world (well 50/50 with Microsoft). And Atlassian has all the project data.

More like 5/95 with Microsoft - and that's being generous, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 1/99. It's basicaly just hip tech companies and a couple of Fortune 500s that use Google Docs. And even their finance departments often use Excel. HN keeps underestimating how the whole physical world runs on Excel.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After comparing Gemini Pro and Claude Sonnet 3.7 coding answers side by side a few times, I decided to cancel my Anthropic subscription and just stick to Gemini.

One of the main advantages Anthropic currently has over Google is the tooling that comes with Claude Code. It may not generate better code, and it has a lower complexity ceiling, but it can automatically find and search files, and figure out how to fix a syntax error fast.

I've switched to aider with the --watch-files flag. Being able to use models in nvim with no additional tooling is pretty sweet

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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I use Gemini almost exclusively as a normal user. What am I missing out on that they are far behind on? It seems shockingly good and I've watched it get much better up to 2.5 Pro.

Mostly brand recognition and the earlier Geminis had more refusals. As a consumer, I also really miss the Advanced voice mode of ChatGPT, which is the most transformative tech in my daily life. It's the only frontier model with true audio-to-audio.

Have you tried the Gemini Live audio-to-audio in the free Gemini iOS app? I find it feels far more natural than ChatGPT Advanced Voice Mode.

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Google making Gemini 2.5 Pro (Experimental) free was a big deal. I haven't tried the more expensive OpenAI models so I can't even compare, only to the free models I have used of theirs in the past. Gemini 2.5 Pro is so much of a step up (IME) that I've become sold on Google's models in general. It not only is smarter than me on most of the subjects I engage with it, it also isn't completely obsequious. The model push…

My work doesn't have access to 2.5 pro and all these posts are just making me want it so much more. I hate how slow things are sometimes.

Can’t you just go into aistudio with any free gmail account?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Google is totally back in the game now, but it’s still going to take a lot more for them at this point to overcome OpenAI’s “first‑mover advantage” (clearly the favorite among younger users atm).

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post #288

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My work doesn't have access to 2.5 pro and all these posts are just making me want it so much more. I hate how slow things are sometimes.

Can’t you just go into aistudio with any free gmail account?

For many workplaces, it's not just that that don't pay for a service, it's that using it is against policy. If I tried to paste some code into ChatGPT, for example, our data loss prevention spyware would block it and I'd soon be having an uncomfortable conversation with our security team.

(We do have access to GitHub Copilot)

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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post #192

Google making Gemini 2.5 Pro (Experimental) free was a big deal. I haven't tried the more expensive OpenAI models so I can't even compare, only to the free models I have used of theirs in the past. Gemini 2.5 Pro is so much of a step up (IME) that I've become sold on Google's models in general. It not only is smarter than me on most of the subjects I engage with it, it also isn't completely obsequious. The model push…

After comparing Gemini Pro and Claude Sonnet 3.7 coding answers side by side a few times, I decided to cancel my Anthropic subscription and just stick to Gemini.

I have had a few epic refactoring failures with Gemini relative to Claude.

For example: I asked both to change a bunch of code into functions to pass into a `pipe` type function, and Gemini truly seemed to have no idea what it was supposed to do, and Claude just did it.

Maybe there was some user error or something, but after that I haven’t really used Gemini.

I’m curious if people are using Gemini and loving it are using it mostly for one-shotting, or if they’re working with it more closely like a pair programmer? I could buy that it could maybe be good at one but bad at the other?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Can’t you just go into aistudio with any free gmail account?

For many workplaces, it's not just that that don't pay for a service, it's that using it is against policy. If I tried to paste some code into ChatGPT, for example, our data loss prevention spyware would block it and I'd soon be having an uncomfortable conversation with our security team. (We do have access to GitHub Copilot)

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