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ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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The steam engine was invented and the 100m dash is now a solved problem.

GeoGuessr is also not a “solved problem” in the sense that if you give the model a photo of an outdoor location that is not covered by Google Street View, then it will just make an educated guess which might still be many kilometers away.

I'm not ashamed to say that for about 6 months I played Geogessr thinking that you could not move around, but only look around... and I did pretty good in my mind.

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The Alki Beach example is absolute madness. On one hand, I can't wait until all thousands of my photos get automatic semantic and geographic tagging (I guess that's possible now). On the other, goodbye privacy, we hardly knew ye. It will be interesting to apply this to historical, or just old, photos.

Assuming it only used the pixels and not any metadata from the file or memory from the user (which is a massive assumption), how fucking cool that it can identify the Olympics versus any other mountain range. At that point it’s probably not too hard to guess the picture came from Alki or Golden Gardens, but still very impressive!

I’m also completely ignoring it inferred location from the pride flag and corgi which have heavy Seattle vibes :)

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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After trying with the free ChatGPT at least, I don't think this would be too much of an additional privacy risk. E.g. I submitted a photo I've taken with a feature with a particular architecture style in the front, and a city canal in the background, and told ChatGPT it was taken in China. It separated the feature and canal correctly, but still guessed wrong. I did remove the EXIF information, as ChatGPT tried to ext…

Have you tried this with o3? I think o3 is much better at this than any of the free models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Religious people claim it's merely a communication device, and the computer is elsewhere. Clearly one's interpretation is a function of the paradigm one exists in.

Thin client theory?

It's more of a hypothesis in this case. And some are clearly thicker than others. But that's details.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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I gave it a series of 11 images stripped of all metadata. It performed quite well, only misidentifying the two taken in a small college town in the NE of the US. It got two questions correct on photos taken in Korea (one with a fairly clear view of Haneul Park, the other a rather difficult to identify picture not resembling anything on google of Sunrise Peak). It got every other question in the US correct, ranging from some under-construction Austin taken from the river to some somewhat difficult shots in NYC (the upper halves of some building from Rockefeller terrace to the black wall of the MOMA). While not perfect, I'm bluntly shocked at how well it performed

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t a human brain an organic computer? I find the human brain very interesting. The most interesting thing I know of in the universe.

Religious people claim it's merely a communication device, and the computer is elsewhere. Clearly one's interpretation is a function of the paradigm one exists in.

> Religious people claim it's merely a communication device, and the computer is elsewhere.

No, that is a seriously weird and imaginary perversion that you've invented, unless you have some citation to a doctrine. Christians do not consider body organs as "devices" nor do our churches teach doctrine on "external computers", if you refer to the Holy Trinity as such? Are you thinking of Latter-Day Saints mythology, or Scientology?

Your description is quite reductive in many aspects, including temporality and misuse of technical nomenclature. Thanks for telling religious people what we think and claim, though, and thanks for the amazing overgeneralized blanket dismissal.

In fact, humans used to be called "Computers" in terms of their job roles, that is, a human in an office was given math/physics problems to solve, and they'd use tools such as slide rule, paper and pencil to "compute" those problems and solve them.

There was more than one example of a fantasy "panopticon" by which a central observer or observers could watch everything going on, for example in a prison facility, and those observers could report findings to human computers, who would process the data and submit it up to the authorities, for meta-analysis and taking action on new developments or trends.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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I'm in Lima, Peru on vacation. Yes, it knows where I am.

Right, and what happens if you ask it the location of an image from somewhere else, sans metadata?

I just screenshotted a friend's instagram post to omit any metadata. I know they are somewhere in Portugal, but not the exact town. Its a generic pretty photo of a beach and the town atop a cliff next to it.

ChatGPT guessed Ericeira which after looking up more photos, didn't match very well. However, Google Lens guessed Albufeira and was bang on.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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After trying with the free ChatGPT at least, I don't think this would be too much of an additional privacy risk. E.g. I submitted a photo I've taken with a feature with a particular architecture style in the front, and a city canal in the background, and told ChatGPT it was taken in China. It separated the feature and canal correctly, but still guessed wrong. I did remove the EXIF information, as ChatGPT tried to ext…

Have you tried this with o3? I think o3 is much better at this than any of the free models

I did not (OpenAI does not allow Chinese to pay for Plus due to politics, and I couldn't be bothered to try circumventing it), and I am curious about it because it does seem like a very difficult job.

I did try the latest Qwen though, and it was able to locate to the correct city, but it's still tens of km off (it guessed a tourist attraction in the city center instead of the actual district).

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