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Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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post #33

Like many other people here, I'm wondering what we'll end up having to do at work do deal with this. We don't have the resources to put a full time person on this, and the UK's not a huge market. For unrelated reasons, we already have to implement geoblocking, and we're also intentionally VPN friendly. I suspect most services are that way, so the easy way out is to add "UK" to the same list as North Korea and Iran. A…

You'll likely end up paying someone else to do it for you.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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post #33

Like many other people here, I'm wondering what we'll end up having to do at work do deal with this. We don't have the resources to put a full time person on this, and the UK's not a huge market. For unrelated reasons, we already have to implement geoblocking, and we're also intentionally VPN friendly. I suspect most services are that way, so the easy way out is to add "UK" to the same list as North Korea and Iran. A…

> I suspect most services are that way

I don't know actual numbers, but I gave up using VPN by default because in my experience they definitely are not.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

Which would kill social media. The cherry-picked tech giant iterations anyway.

It ties real world ultraviolence with social media. It won't kill social media, just make it materially toxic. IIUC South Korea in 2000s had exactly this, online dispute stories coming from there were much worse than anything I had heard locally.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

#44

I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

ultimately, i think the endgame is to require government ID in order to access internet services in general, a la ender's game.

Please walk me from scratch how you would access the internet on your own right now without any form of Government ID

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

#45

I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

Good!

Why is the Internet any different than say, a porn or liquor store? Why are we so fuckin allergic to verification? I'll tell ya why- money. Don't pretend it's privacy.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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post #41
post #33

Like many other people here, I'm wondering what we'll end up having to do at work do deal with this. We don't have the resources to put a full time person on this, and the UK's not a huge market. For unrelated reasons, we already have to implement geoblocking, and we're also intentionally VPN friendly. I suspect most services are that way, so the easy way out is to add "UK" to the same list as North Korea and Iran. A…

You'll likely end up paying someone else to do it for you.

I'm reasonably sure we will not. Dealing with an integration like that means not shipping some other feature to the rest of the planet. The marginal gain of accepting UK users is lower than the marginal gain of increasing addressable market everywhere else.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

#47

I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

Good! Why is the Internet any different than say, a porn or liquor store? Why are we so fuckin allergic to verification? I'll tell ya why- money. Don't pretend it's privacy.

It's about power not money. The Chinese social media companies who do this are plenty profitable.

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

That would not be unprecedented: The first major change by the Lee Myung-bak government was to require websites with over 100,000 daily visitors to make their users register their real name and social security numbers. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_South_K...

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ultimately, i think the endgame is to require government ID in order to access internet services in general, a la ender's game.

Please walk me from scratch how you would access the internet on your own right now without any form of Government ID

???

I'd walk to a local library and use their wifi. Or walk to a local McDonalds and use their wifi. Or walk to a friend's/family's house and use their wifi. Or...

Re: Discord's face scanning age checks 'start of a bigger shift'

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I suspect the endgame of this campaign is to have mandatory ID checks for social media. Police would have access to these upon court orders etc and be able to easily prosecute anyone who posts 'harmful' content online.

Good! Why is the Internet any different than say, a porn or liquor store? Why are we so fuckin allergic to verification? I'll tell ya why- money. Don't pretend it's privacy.

How about we don't pretend there's only 1 single facet to this issue, no matter which you think it is?
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