OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

Post by asadm » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 11:33 PM UTC

nowittyusername wrote: post #160

asadm wrote: post #149

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copilot (and others) try to be too smart and do context reduction (to save their own wallets). I want ENTIRETY of the files I attached to context, not RAG-ed version of it.

I believe this is the root of the problem for all agentic coding solutions. They are gimping the full context through fancy function calling and tool use to reduce the full context that is being sent through the API. Problem with this is you can never know what context is actually needed for the problem to be solved in the best way. The funny thing is, this type of behavior actually leads many people to believe these…

Post by bredren » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 11:40 PM UTC

asadm wrote: post #149

brandall10 wrote: post #146

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Why not just select Gemini Pro 2.5 in Copilot with Edit mode? Virtually unlimited use without extra fees. Copilot used to be useless, but over the last few months has become quite excellent once edit mode was added.

copilot (and others) try to be too smart and do context reduction (to save their own wallets). I want ENTIRETY of the files I attached to context, not RAG-ed version of it.

Post by WatchDog » Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 11:54 PM UTC

therealmarv wrote: post #78

cube2222 wrote: post #26

Fingers crossed for this to work well! Claude Code is pretty excellent. I’m actually legitimately surprised how good it is, since other coding agents I’ve used before have mostly been a letdown, which made me only use Claude in direct change prompting with Zed (“implement xyz here”, “rewrite this function with abc”, etc), so very hands-on. So I’ve went into trying out Claude Code rather pessimistically, and now I’m u…

Claude Code has a closed license https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/LICENSE.... There is fork named Anon Kode https://github.com/dnakov/anon-kode which can use more models and non-Anthropic ones. But the license is unclear for it. It's interesting to see codex to be Apache License. Maybe somebody extends it to be usable with competing models.

Post by cynicalpeace » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 12:11 AM UTC

nowittyusername wrote: post #160

asadm wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

copilot (and others) try to be too smart and do context reduction (to save their own wallets). I want ENTIRETY of the files I attached to context, not RAG-ed version of it.

I believe this is the root of the problem for all agentic coding solutions. They are gimping the full context through fancy function calling and tool use to reduce the full context that is being sent through the API. Problem with this is you can never know what context is actually needed for the problem to be solved in the best way. The funny thing is, this type of behavior actually leads many people to believe these…

Post by charcircuit » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 12:17 AM UTC

mwigdahl wrote: post #144

danenania wrote: post #36

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I think it depends a lot on how you value your time. I'm personally willing to spend hundreds or thousands per month happily if it saves me enough hours. I'd estimate that if I were to do consulting, I'd likely be charging in the $150-250 per hour range, so by my math, it's pretty easy to justify any tools that save me even a few hours per month.

Or, increasingly, how the company values your time. If Claude Code can make a $100K/year dev 10% more productive, it's worth it to the employer to pay anything under $1600/month for it (assuming fully loaded cost of the employee to the business is twice salary).