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Audiobooks vs. Printed Books: a debate as a reader and an author

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Re: Audiobooks vs. Printed Books: a debate as a reader and an author

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Can I read a physical book when I'm running? Can I read a physical book when I'm doing house work? Or throwing pots in my studio? Or knitting? Or cooking? Or driving? Can I stay focused if I'm just sitting and listening instead of reading? Absolutely not. There's no 'vs' here. They occupy different spaces. All hail text, whatever form it takes.

How do you listen to audio books when you're engaged in other activities? You'll be distracted and won't get everything. That's important to me.

I think it entirely depends on what audiobook you're listening to. If I'm listening to something that's lower complexity or aimed at younger audiences (e.g. The Martian by Andy Weir or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams), I can miss bits and pieces of the narration without losing too much of the story. As long as you don't lose track of several uninterrupted minutes at a time, you'll probably get most of the relevant context. The same applies if I'm in the mood to listen to a story that's already familiar to me, like Lord of the Rings.

It definitely becomes more difficult to multitask with harder reads; which is where I prefer to have a book in hand. I'll have to rewind several times per chapter to catch everything. Though it's still doable for some, I'm sure.

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There should be better text-to-speech readers by now.

Human readers are now little bit better, but when AI recognizes characters and narrators, the came is over.

Worst thing on text-to-speech readers is when you fall asleep and dreams and text get weirdly mixed and you have search afterwards where you dropped off and started dreaming. AI might help on this also because smartwatch recognizes sleep stage quite well.

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They're two different things, that employ different senses and are neurologically demonstrated to provided different experiences. We don't need them to battle it out unless for the clicks.

They are different pathways to an equivalent experience.

They are most definitely not equivalent experiences.

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Amazon is trying hard with Audiobooks, but they seem to be extremely expensive to me, maybe that’s their way of making a lot more money than kindle format. I spend my listening time just trying to catch up with podcasts. What audio book formats are there, and services. Dare I say it are there any open source ones? There are many podcast players, are the many audiobook players? Is there anything really useful in an au…

Audiobooks are preposterously expensive. I used the library and (although the BBC is pulling the plug on it outside the UK) BBC Sounds, both of which have audiobooks as well as audio plays.

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Can I read a physical book when I'm running? Can I read a physical book when I'm doing house work? Or throwing pots in my studio? Or knitting? Or cooking? Or driving? Can I stay focused if I'm just sitting and listening instead of reading? Absolutely not. There's no 'vs' here. They occupy different spaces. All hail text, whatever form it takes.

How do you listen to audio books when you're engaged in other activities? You'll be distracted and won't get everything. That's important to me.

It depends on the book and the activity. Not just audiobooks, but I can read a nice fiction book at a busy coffee shop no problem, but I need a controlled quiet environment for a dense, technical read. With audiobooks, I have the mental bandwidth for a fiction book or nontechnical story based non-fiction book. If I’m going for a walk or a light jog, I can listen to a book no problem. If I’m going for a run, I can’t concentrate enough. Vacuuming and other mindless chores are fine, but cooking is too much of a mental load. It isn’t a binary thing, it is just depends on how much mental bandwidth you have vs the book you are consuming.

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Its not cheating, some books can only be read, while others are improved with audio. I prefer reading books, there is something special about holding a book in your hands, insering a book mark or jotting down something illegible in the margins. I have read a massive amount of books in my time as a psychotherapist for 25 years. For me, it is far better to read books to fully understand and examine the theories, concep…

>My main gripe with audiobooks is the readers voice. I cannot stand the squeeky, high pitched, robotic, nasally, sounds like AI, might well be AI, especially american female voices. Being British, just one paragraph and I am immediately put off and turn them off.

I would say that this could be said about books and the writing style. Whether it is Hemingway's bare bones style or Cormac McCarthy's lack of punctuation, they can put you off the whole book. To be fair, the voice of the narration is in addition to everything in a written book that could put one off.

>Do authors select who reads their books

I am no authority, but as a general rule, authors only have some input in the process, but the publishers are the main and final deciders (unless it is a big name author).

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Can I read a physical book when I'm running? Can I read a physical book when I'm doing house work? Or throwing pots in my studio? Or knitting? Or cooking? Or driving? Can I stay focused if I'm just sitting and listening instead of reading? Absolutely not. There's no 'vs' here. They occupy different spaces. All hail text, whatever form it takes.

How do you listen to audio books when you're engaged in other activities? You'll be distracted and won't get everything. That's important to me.

> How do you listen to audio books when you're engaged in other activities?

The same way you can probably carry a conversation while walking. As long as the other activity doesn't engage the language processing part of the brain there's no conflict. I can't listen while reading, not even small package labels in a grocery store, but I can easily listen while washing dishes or exercising or eating a meal because different sections of the brain are responsible for them and can be active simultaneously.

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You don’t "read" audiobooks. You listen to them. Big difference - not better or worse, just not the same. When it comes to listening, I Love podcasts - esp. with multiple hosts/guests. Solo ones work too, if they feel like conversations and not recitals. Audiobooks are not for me. I’ve tried. Reading hits different. But sure, for self-help, productivity, coding and shit you need to use them, so you use them. Interest…

Counterpoint: You don’t read print books you just look at them

For me reading is not something I do with either my eyes or ears but my mind.

Re: Audiobooks vs. Printed Books: a debate as a reader and an author

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A while back, our neighborhood book club read Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. One of the members said that she couldn't stand the jumping around in the narrative sequence of the book. It hadn't bothered me, and it was only later that I remembered that she habitually listens to books.

Listening was how most of humanity consumed literature for most of history. But the written word has its advantages as well.

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I find audiobook performances are usually quite bad or cheesy. Even the ones that people rave about. I also find radio plays, or podcasts with full scripts, the same way. I also find them simply boring to listen to, even the ones of books I love. It feels very passive and I'm always slightly annoyed that I can read significantly faster than the wpm of an audiobook (speeding up an audiobook ruins the performances).

the cheesyness really depends on the narrator. Personally I have a fondness of a few select narrators. One guy who is increadibly talented is Jeff Hayes. He's almost ruined audiobooks that aren't narated by him for me...

Completely agreed re. Jeff Hayes. I've enjoyed to some terrible books more than I should have because he narrated them. He definitely leans more towards performance than just narration though and he does an excellent job of it. I stumbled across a cold read of his for DCC book 5 and the way such different voices flow smoothly out of the same face messes with my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ54CpkUoaM

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