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Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#731

The contract with MITRE has been extended. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2025/04/16/cve-... My guess indefinitely. DOGE might be a bunch of idiots, but in the entire DOD, there are non-idiots.

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Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#732

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to control everything I say and put my good friends into reeducation camps. When you accept communism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

I understand you're trying to "both sides" an argument. What have you found that has achieved for you in the past? Do you change people's opinions with this?

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#734

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

Case in point: you have decided that those who disagree with you want to kill you, deport your friend, and are otherwise nazis. While a minority do, that isn't the majority.

One the one hand, yes.

On the other hand:

“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is 'Nazi.' Nobody cares about their motives anymore.”

- Julius Goat

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#735

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to control everything I say and put my good friends into reeducation camps. When you accept communism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

Democrats haven't put anyone into a reeducation camp as far as I'm aware. Your enemies are imaginary while the parent comment's enemies are all too real.

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#736

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

Case in point: you have decided that those who disagree with you want to kill you, deport your friend, and are otherwise nazis. While a minority do, that isn't the majority.

We had a word for people that voted for Nazis, agreed with Nazis, talked like Nazis but claimed they weren't Nazis themselves in the 40s. It was "Nazi".

What matters is that the current administration is disappearing people with no legal reasons, due process or possible recourse. Either you agree with them in which case fuck you, or you don't and you condemn them. There can be no compromise or civility when one side is so aggressive and dangerous.

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#737

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

Case in point: you have decided that those who disagree with you want to kill you, deport your friend, and are otherwise nazis. While a minority do, that isn't the majority.

This argument went out the window long ago. You're not absolved of responsibility just because you voted for someone who wants to hurt people instead of hurting them yourself.

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#738
I didn't realize that CVE was funded by the DHS. Isn't it better for it to be independent and not funded by an intelligence agency?

It's enough of a public good to have a common advisory for vulnerabilities that FAANG should just kick it a few million a year. How much can it possibly cost to run this anyway?

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#739

The contract with MITRE has been extended. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2025/04/16/cve-... My guess indefinitely. DOGE might be a bunch of idiots, but in the entire DOD, there are non-idiots.

My guess is that they’ll be phased out next year. The long-term goal seems to be transitioning the CVE program into something more like an industry-led consortium. (If you did not notice they operate zero budgeting approach: cut everything and if something is very important reverse it. But you cut first and then ask questions.)

It’s worth noting that MITRE is a DoD contractor (with minor contracts from other agencies like this one). Having the CVE program operated by a company funded by the U.S. military raises valid concerns about conflicts of interest—especially in an ecosystem that depends on neutrality and global trust.

Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

#740

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to kill me and deport my good friends to guantanamo bay cuba. When you accept nazism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

No thank you. I am absolutely uninterested in civil discussions with people who literally want to control everything I say and put my good friends into reeducation camps. When you accept communism you throw the concept of civil discourse out the window.

What you are saying is the fantastical kool-aid Fox News and alt-right media spin to you.

In the meantime, Trump is actually deporting people without due process to inhumane torture camps run by a dictator while openly bragging about it and defying court orders.

These two things are not the same.

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