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AI Is Facing a Crisis

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Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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post #14

This must be some form of sarcasm, right? All I see is reasons to stop the waste of resources to further develop AI

Would you go to a stand up comedy show and ask the person on stage if they're being serious?

Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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post #8

> 140Wh are needed to write a 100-word email, equivalent to 7 full charges of an iPhone Pro Max. An iPhone can write a whole email in a few seconds using a local model.

Which, to be honest, is probably worse. When it comes to AI, I'm a lot more worried about "information pollution" than anything else.

Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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post #5

> Writing a 100-word email consumes about 500ml of water (17 oz).1 > 2 litres are needed for every 10 to 50 queries you make.2 Isn't this water reused? AFAIK it's just for cooling. This smells like FUD.

It's not like a water-cooled computer that just uses water for heat transport. In a datacenter, I believe it's generally just evaporated off and lost to the atmosphere. This allows you to dump the energy into the vapor's latent heat.

So yeah, it's treated fresh water that is then lost. (It's not great, but I think the electricity waste is more compelling.)

Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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post #12

I've wondered this for a while, why does AI use so much water? Are companies just sending the output of their liquid cooling into the drain? Most computers I've seen use a closed loop and consume no water past the original filling up

Perhaps they use evaporative cooling towers?

In which case it goes right back into the water supply and isn't "used" at all.

Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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I've wondered this for a while, why does AI use so much water? Are companies just sending the output of their liquid cooling into the drain? Most computers I've seen use a closed loop and consume no water past the original filling up

at scale, data centers use cooling towers with fresh water, not a closed loop liquid cooling system.

https://oecd.ai/en/wonk/how-much-water-does-ai-consume

Re: AI Is Facing a Crisis

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I've wondered this for a while, why does AI use so much water? Are companies just sending the output of their liquid cooling into the drain? Most computers I've seen use a closed loop and consume no water past the original filling up

There are closed-loop datacenters, but the hyperscalers now use evaporation chimneys. Google used ~21bn litres of water in 2023-24.
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