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Post by rob74 »

panny wrote: post #295
Ucalegon wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU should just buy MITRE. Move it to the EU and make it a EU based project.

This would be hilarious. That would be a good thumb in the eye to the current administration who complained long and loud about how Obama let ICANN leave US possession. Just imagine the campaign commercials in 2026, >The POTUS transferred our cyber defenses to the EU Ouch

Well, that's kind of the point? The current administration doesn't care about cyber defense, any less than it cares about protecting the environment, protecting consumers, having top-notch universities and research, foreign aid etc. etc. Actually, it takes pride in not caring about all of these things.

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Post by hnlmorg »

riffraff wrote: post #207
tw04 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean wonder kids.

wunderkind is a loanword, it's one of those cases of a German word being used but being odd in English since it's so similar. Like kindergarten which is often speller as "garden". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderkind_(disambiguation)

I think the GP was making a reference to the Apple TV show “Ted Lasso”.

“Wunderkind” mispronounced as “Wonder Kid” is a running joke in that show.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TedLasso/comments/132rw9v/what_the_...

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Post by perching_aix »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #315
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is political now by design. It's meant to reach into every facet of society and community and restructure it.

Everything was always political. Laws, the economy, conflcit. How is any person not affected by these? The government is responsible for all or a large part of how a country functions. People who say "I'm not political" are deflecting to avoid conflict

When this is discussed, what's being meant is that everday party politics are spilling out and overwhelming a project's or industry's individual, internal politics, which are often a completely disconnected meta.

Appealing to "well everything is connected" I'm not sure is useful. It's interesting from a semantics perspective the first few times you come across it maybe, then swaps around into being plain frustrating, then lands on just missing the point.

Finally, I think people who want to stay out of said party political meta I think are doing a pretty big favor to their mental health, and I really can't fault them one bit for it. No coincidence either.

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #255
worik wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> The Democrats say "we feel your pain" Fuck them, truly. Voters do not want some Harvard educated lawyer to "feel their pain". Yeah, apparently they want some billionaire who doesn't pay his taxes, who was given millions by his daddy, and who famously stiffed small business contractors at his buildings, to say he feels their pain. That said, I actually upvoted your comment because right now it's heavily downvoted bu…

> Trump is so beloved by his base because he was the first one to really acknowledge their anger and give it validity. "Make America Great Again" is a slogan that works because a lot of people have seen their financial and social position deteriorate over the past 30-40 years and they want to go back and they want someone to blame (even if going back is impossible and they're blaming the wrong people).

I agree. And they're not wrong to want to go back or blame someone. We can "go back" in terms of increasing the QoL of our populace. Idk, the Democrats were always clear about wanting to uplift people. Obamacare and Medicare for All were extremely clear policy positions meant to uplift the common man. Eliminating student debt (a policy I don't agree with) was also obviously positioned to help people improve their economic and social standing.

I don't know why people say Democrats missed this and Trump saw it? The Democrats won on slogans that capitalized exactly this sentiment. Obama's "Hope" and "Yes we can" are obviously in a context where people didn't have hope or questioned whether we could.

I think he just got lucky against bad candidates, and we ascribe way too much to his branding and the other garbage. Clinton's branding was about HER (i.e. I'm with her), not about THE PEOPLE (biggest political branding mistake in the 21st century imo). And Harris never had the popularity to go to to toe with Trump.

Idk, I think people are mad, but I think the Democrats have spoken to that more authentically and proven themselves to actually do things that help the common man than Trump ever has

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Post by juliendorra »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #315
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is political now by design. It's meant to reach into every facet of society and community and restructure it.

Everything was always political. Laws, the economy, conflcit. How is any person not affected by these? The government is responsible for all or a large part of how a country functions. People who say "I'm not political" are deflecting to avoid conflict

Alternatively people who say “I’m not political” are benefiting from the status quo and political direction of things (long term, not necessarily short term). They frame inaction as apolitical.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

jonnybgood wrote: post #306
Ucalegon wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU should just buy MITRE. Move it to the EU and make it a EU based project.

MITRE is a non-profit. All the EU has to do is reach out to MITRE and be willing to fund the project.

I think all the big companies that owe their ongoing business should band together and fund it. No way an organization like this should rely on just one sponsor.

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Post by dingaling »

sschueller wrote: post #323
the_doctah wrote: post #155

Why is the government responsible for CVEs again?

"the government" aka "We the people". It is in all our interest. This is like asking why the government is responsible for roads.

> This is like asking why the government is responsible for roads.

Thought experiment:

If roads were built by private companies, could a Government justify the expense maintaining a database of all the potholes?

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Post by shakna »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #127
chris_wot wrote: post #91

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So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.

Given that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.

No. [0] I wouldn't say they are computer experts. [1][2]

[0] https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...

[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355895/doge-musk-nlrb-...

[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-14/doge-staf...

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #301
4ndrewl wrote: post #296

To the "I wish HN would stay out of politics" crew. You can stay out of politics, but politics will always come and find you.

Everything is political now by design. It's meant to reach into every facet of society and community and restructure it.

Everything already was, you just didn't recognize it because it was to your benefit / in your interests.
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