I don't see why this should be publicly funded, so I don't really see an issue with this. The industry benefits from having a CVE database, so the industry should fund it.
The industry won’t want to fund it. It’ll want to profit from it.
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. What leverage do you have for the DOGE boys? What power? Resigning? Because on the Defense side of the government the best leverage that some teams have found is mass resignation, meaning that nothing happens. There is no negotiating with bullies, it merely breeds more concessions.
> DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. DOGE follows Trump's direction and acts on his behalf, as you must know. They make a big deal out of DOGE so Trump's name is less attached to these actions. Then they can take much of the blame with them when they go away, with Trump and the GOP blaming them for 'excesses'. > Trump is not going to negot…
I don't think there's any reason to believe that Trump is mentally competent to understand what's happening here or engage in any kind of meaningful negotiation.
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#183These four years are going to be the death of all of us.
War with China and doing enough reprehensible acts to stoke protests to declare martial law to stay in power indefinitely.
I feel like we're only a few weeks away from someone "home grown" experiencing an "administrative error." The slide into madness continues.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.
Given that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.
Absolutely not. They are not broadly experts, and they are not making these decisions after careful consideration, as evidenced by their continual acts of stupidity and basic errors and cutting things despite having no idea what it is they are cutting. Musk got in an argument with someone who said DOGE cut funding for a cancer treatment program, and Musk was calling the person a liar, and the person provided evidence and Musk admitted it was an accident. They are a clown car of idiots who vastly overestimate their own knowledge and underestimate how much good the government actually does. They think they can just slash and burn and there will be no negative consequences because they think the government is worthless.
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#185I'm surprised that it was USA's responsibility to fund this in the first place. Why weren't other countries providing funds?
It's a near certitude that Russia and China each have databases of exploitable software errors and prize zero days. It was to the advantage of the US and allies to coordinate and lead in tracking and fixing such errors. Multiple countries, companies, and individuals contributed finding and fixing bugs. The administrative task of keeping track was one part of a greater picture, a part that came with first to be advise…
> It was to the advantage of the US and allies to coordinate and lead in tracking and fixing such errors.
From what I understand of the article, none of these allies were funding it.
> Multiple countries, companies, and individuals contributed finding and fixing bugs.
Clearly that itself isn't enough. Someone has to pay for maintaining this service. It appears that no one other than USA spent money in funding it.
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#186Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. What leverage do you have for the DOGE boys? What power? Resigning? Because on the Defense side of the government the best leverage that some teams have found is mass resignation, meaning that nothing happens. There is no negotiating with bullies, it merely breeds more concessions.
> DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. DOGE follows Trump's direction and acts on his behalf, as you must know. They make a big deal out of DOGE so Trump's name is less attached to these actions. Then they can take much of the blame with them when they go away, with Trump and the GOP blaming them for 'excesses'. > Trump is not going to negot…
Currently the "discussion of leverage" you are talking about is out of the hands of the leaders who run these programs.
The amount of disrespect you have shown for someone that is just telling you 99% of federal workers have absolutely no leverage says a lot.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.
Given that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.
They've done their degrees and masters in Computer Science, and many of them dropped out. But they focused on AI, so I'm assuming this makes them great at statistics, but does this mean they are great at security? Given the way they've gone through a variety of departments, I'd say they aren't.
The DOGE crew are incompetent. Witness their firing of all the people who look after the nuclear stockpile and Ebola research.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.
Absolutely not. They are not broadly experts, and they are not making these decisions after careful consideration, as evidenced by their continual acts of stupidity and basic errors and cutting things despite having no idea what it is they are cutting. Musk got in an argument with someone who said DOGE cut funding for a cancer treatment program, and Musk was calling the person a liar, and the person provided evidence…
Until, like Ayn Rand, they actually need the government. Then they'll be complaining how the government doesn't provide services.
Re: CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. What leverage do you have for the DOGE boys? What power? Resigning? Because on the Defense side of the government the best leverage that some teams have found is mass resignation, meaning that nothing happens. There is no negotiating with bullies, it merely breeds more concessions.
> DOGE is doing this, it's not a "scapegoat", and Trump is not going to negotiate anything here, that's ridiculous. DOGE follows Trump's direction and acts on his behalf, as you must know. They make a big deal out of DOGE so Trump's name is less attached to these actions. Then they can take much of the blame with them when they go away, with Trump and the GOP blaming them for 'excesses'. > Trump is not going to negot…
> You need to make it in Trump's interest to keep the CVE program.
This guy is ~80 years old and bragged about "person, woman, man, camera, TV." He recently got into a Tesler and exclaimed "everything's computer!" Have you seen the way his aids explain executive orders to him (like a child) before he signs them?
He doesn't have the foggiest notion of comprehension of what the CVE program is, or how it would benefit him. Unless you're greasing his wheels, it's not going to happen.