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Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by fckgw »

coliveira wrote: post #437
0xTJ wrote: post #316

Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

The idea that Temu is gonna end is nonsense. First of all, the US is just one market for them. They're red hot in many countries in latin America, Asia, Africa and so many others. Moreover, I guess they'll eventually find other ways to sell products in the USA, in one way or another.

What's the difference between them and Wish.com then? Wish eventually failed, but Temu still seems to be trucking along.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by rpcope1 »

vultour wrote: post #251
prmoustache wrote: post #155

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Why would you offer some low quality shit from Temu for a birthday? 99 items out of 100 self destruct within weeks of use. It is only useful to people compulsively buying clothing regardless of the quality and who will never wear twice the same thing. Disposable stuff/waste. One would only do that to their worst enemy. OK I am exagerrating a bit and had a handful lf decent stuff from aliexpress/wish/temu. But you can…

Reading this thread is mind-boggling. People complaining that cheap garbage from Temu is falling apart. People proudly proclaiming that they order Chinese crap almost daily. An argument about whether one crap peddler is better than another one. Am I taking crazy pills? Am I the only one who buys things a few times per year? This rampant consumerism is depressing.

No, I had the exact same thoughts. I personally find it crazy to think that you'd buy something (that isn't an explicit perishable or consumable) and intentionally buy something shoddy or discard it after only a few weeks.

With regards to clothing, I'm kind of glad the market for cheap shit from sweatshops is getting a beating, as I'm tired of seeing fewer and fewer legitimately durable clothing items. We need more union shops like Carhartt's (which only makes a few things anymore) building nice durable clothing. God knows a good pure cotton duck jacket or pants are both better for the environment (no petroleum products for synthetic materials and longer life) and frankly a better investment when they last years or at least months under the hardest abuse.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by bahmboo »

zamalek wrote: post #411

I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

The article is about Temu. Amazon is not mentioned.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by crowcroft »

bgnn wrote: post #499
flappyeagle wrote: post #363

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Conclusion is wrong here. There’s plenty of bid for the ad inventory. Google and meta are extremely resilient to this kind of thing

I can't see how can add industry be resilient to recession. Maybe if you switch to selling ads for government propaganda?

Advertising on the whole is not recession proof[1], although in the last two dips Google showed growth in ad revenue[2], and Meta was relatively stable[3].

The first thing that gets cut is 'new channels' and experiments (read: channels that have bad measurable ROI). Pinterest, X, Snap.

After that it's the most 'wasteful' brand spending/high cost per reach broadcast media that gets cut. Cinema, local TV, and increasingly nationwide TV.

Then when the economy comes back to growth there's a broader recalibration of budgets.

Because Google search has a very simple, easy to understand impact on sales they actually grew faster in recessions. Then when the recession ends brands don't see any reason to cut that spending.

1 - https://www.ibisworld.com/us/bed/total-advertising-expenditu... 2- https://www.statista.com/statistics/266249/advertising-reven... 3 - https://www.statista.com/statistics/268604/annual-revenue-of...

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by ziml77 »

blueboo wrote: post #467
_heimdall wrote: post #446

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I ended up drastically cutting back on Amazon purchases when they started getting flooded with brands like that. Its absolutely on Amazon to maintain quality. There are certain brands and types of products I'll order there because they're just harder to find otherwise, but its mostly a last resort these days given that Amazon doesn't care to curate what is on their "shelves".

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It only shows what people are buying, not what they want to buy. Cheap crap might sell a ton because it's cheap and listed at the top of the search results. Which then feeds into it being kept at the top of the search results. A lot of times if the item is cheap enough people don't bother with returns and rather just throw the item out, something that will go completely unseen by the metrics.

Ratings are also not very helpful because they are manipulated in a variety of ways. Things like bots/mechanical turks, putting offers in the package to give people money back if they rate the item 5 stars, or hijacking a well rated product listing by changing it later or taking advantage of item variants system.

So, I very much don't trust any of their data myself.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by coliveira »

fckgw wrote: post #511
coliveira wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that Temu is gonna end is nonsense. First of all, the US is just one market for them. They're red hot in many countries in latin America, Asia, Africa and so many others. Moreover, I guess they'll eventually find other ways to sell products in the USA, in one way or another.

What's the difference between them and Wish.com then? Wish eventually failed, but Temu still seems to be trucking along.

Temu has direct access to producers of the items they sell. They know what categories are profitable, having incredible logistics directly tied to Chinese industry. Wish, from what I can getter, was just an American middle man.

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Post by chairmansteve »

zamalek wrote: post #411

I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

Yeah. I just go to Best Buy. You pay more. Their website works pretty well.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by chirau »

bahmboo wrote: post #513
zamalek wrote: post #411

I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

The article is about Temu. Amazon is not mentioned.

Maybe you should read the article before commenting? Section:"Why we care"

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by soylentgrn »

_heimdall wrote: post #446
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #440

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15 different variants of the same product, all obviously cheaply made from the same factory, with varying degrees of quality control and reviews strewn about the various “brands” of the product so that it’s much harder to have a negative review everywhere. Yeah, this sucks. Though the correct thing to do here is to enforce this hygiene on the platforms themselves. They have every resource and means to be able to prev…

I ended up drastically cutting back on Amazon purchases when they started getting flooded with brands like that. Its absolutely on Amazon to maintain quality. There are certain brands and types of products I'll order there because they're just harder to find otherwise, but its mostly a last resort these days given that Amazon doesn't care to curate what is on their "shelves".

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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by chairmansteve »

dingnuts wrote: post #377
arghwhat wrote: post #348

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> I personally feel bad for the environment 1 item per day is certainly not efficient, but nowadays temu and aliexpress batch things over a small period so that shouldn't really happen... > and all the people on the losing side of cheap low quality junk production Remember that taking away bad jobs does not save anyone, quite the contrary. People go from having shit jobs to no jobs, or even worse jobs with lower-prof…

> Helping them requires creating vast numbers of better paying jobs with better working condition in their country, which require redirecting vast amounts of money to those countries This was the logic under Deng, and the reason China is now a peer state. Unfortunately when doing business with communists, enriching them doesn't help the individuals move out of poverty because that would require wages to rise and that…

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