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Re: Palestinian activist arrested by ICE while expecting U.S. citizenship interview

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Post by wruza »

zombiwoof wrote: post #9

As a US citizen my only hope is the rest of the world saves us

Interestingly, when this happens on the other side of the world, these people are expected to rise and overthrow. Otoh, when it's a local soul at stake… maybe someone else can save it. As a US citizen, aren't you the hope? Not you specifically, but you get the idea. You were the hope in many countries for decades and advocated for peace and democracy everywhere. And the only ones who still have freedom, guns and visibly functioning courts all in the same place.

Re: Palestinian activist arrested by ICE while expecting U.S. citizenship interview

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Post by palmotea »

BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #10
zombiwoof wrote: post #9

As a US citizen my only hope is the rest of the world saves us

How would they do that?

>> As a US citizen my only hope is the rest of the world saves us

> How would they do that?

Due to offshoring and outsourcing, perhaps China could choke the US economy until it agrees to become a strong nation by studying Xi?

The the GP was probably imagining some liberal savior riding in a white horse, but that ain't gonna happen. Liberals are too weak everywhere.

Re: Palestinian activist arrested by ICE while expecting U.S. citizenship interview

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Post by ashoeafoot »

chimineycricket wrote: post #6
aerodog wrote: post #2

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Its the usual anti semitic, disguised as anti israel colonislism , disguised as an open question , asked by someone who us part by a movement that has genocided the whole middle east of all minorities . Its as deeply intellectually dishonest, as the whole "russia is a anti imperal power" tankies were, a narrative ignoring the horrors on the ground and willing to support israeli extremists and sacrifice the Palestinian people as pawns.

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Post by notepad0x90 »

I earnestly hope enough Americans read and learn from history. The biggest pattern to glean in my opinion is that often when the majority populace realizes some action needs to be taken, it is too late. There is no way around preemptive action (and for clarity, I'm not talking about violence, since that would violate rules here, I mean things like general strikes, forming a new political party, aggressive political ads, consumer activism,etc.. but whatever is needed). You can't do much as an individual, but you can do a lot as a large group. There is real power in numbers, and now more than ever, there is tech that enables unrelated people with common ideals to organize and collaborate.

A second lesson history teaches us is that career politicians in power are ineffective when it comes to taking drastic and crucial action. They calculate using outdated variables and formulae. The game has changed and they find it difficult to even accept that fact. They know the stakes are high, but their focus is preservation and restoration of the game, even when have good intentions, they are incapable of protecting what is most important.

A certain critical-mass of people that actually like their country and are willing to do whatever it takes to preserve it is needed to prevent a nation from collapsing. If those people expect politicians or some other established official entity to take action, by the time they realize there is no one but them who can take action, it will be too late.

The time to act is yesterday.

Re: Palestinian activist arrested by ICE while expecting U.S. citizenship interview

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Post by firesteelrain »

Mahdawi allegedly supports Hamas. Hamas is officially designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) by the State Departmemt. This designation means that providing material support to Hamas is a federal crime under US law. Green card holders or anyone in the US can face serious legal and immigration consequences for any form of support or affiliation with Hamas.

Re: Palestinian activist arrested by ICE while expecting U.S. citizenship interview

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Post by xg15 »

ashoeafoot wrote: post #14
chimineycricket wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Its the usual anti semitic, disguised as anti israel colonislism , disguised as an open question , asked by someone who us part by a movement that has genocided the whole middle east of all minorities . Its as deeply intellectually dishonest, as the whole "russia is a anti imperal power" tankies were, a narrative ignoring the horrors on the ground and willing to support israeli extremists and sacrifice the Palestinia…

Impressive how many things you can read from 2 lines of text.
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