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Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#61
One thing that I have hypothesized about, is can material embedding vectors be extracted which are then used to predict prices?

In theory, this is what value investors are doing to some extent. However, embedding vectors often to do match intuition very well.

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#62

Is anyone trying to automate the detection of the rampant insider trading that is, no doubt, going on at present?

Unusual Whales tracks as much as they can... https://unusualwhales.com/insiders/trades?transaction_codes[...

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

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I was thinking of building exactly this type of thing here. This is great and I love the simple/minimalistic styled pages. Things I was also contemplating to implement you can freely steal: 1. Giving a list of potential interesting investments - these could also be behind paywall. 2. Summarize based on sectors to see where there's downturns coming - again maybe paywall this 3. Connect with news-sites or twitter etc..…

Really nice of you to encourage, thank you! I've thought about some of those. The first one is an interesting idea, but offering any real financial advice is regulated, which is a tread carefully territory Second one is achievable and a good one at that. In fact, there is a lot of canonical data out there that when used carefully can provide a very nuanced picture of the current state of economy. Third one, currently…

Unpopular opinion here... If you tread carefully you'll most likely not succeed. I am not American and I know you guys like to sue eachother for putting cats in microwaves and stuff so maybe this is not great opinion to have in America at the current moment.

I would go for it and put a disclaimer, or I would just incorporate in a country where there's no issues with these things.

all this is hard of course to provide good value, but worthwhile.

Twitters' cost is insane right now, I had quite a few ideas for twitter integrations but they would easily cost thousands per month just to access their API.

I looked into https://github.com/d60/twikit - might not be suitable but you can definitely play around with it. Just don't use your official account as I got shadow banned using it unfortunately.

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

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I am a portfolio manager of a small/mid-cap equity fund. This is definitely cool and clearly took a lot of time and thought!

If this is a side project, that's amazing and I love it. If you did want to take it further though, I would though encourage you to spend some time interviewing potential users and thinking through how you are creating value.

As a fundamentals investor, to win in stockpicking (especially against quant traders), you need to get really deep into the details. As mentioned there are lots of tools that summarize earnings calls, but more importantly, I don't think summarizing earnings calls or releases are super useful for investors.

There are basically two ways to build useful software for investors. One way is to create summaries / off-the-shelf analyses that tell investors if a company is good or bad. Right now as-is, that is sort of where this product is. The problem is, an earnings call summary is insufficient. Yes, AAPL revenue may be up 4.0%, but the fact that you figured that out in 15 seconds with an LLM is not a differentiator since everyone else can figure it out in 45 seconds by just doing mental math. And, what did _you_ expect it to be? Very different trade answer if you thought it should be down 10% or up 40% and it in reality hit 4.0%.

I think generally this is also tough because the people really good about building recommenders (black box or otherwise) just work at hedge funds and make a ton of money for themselves / their clients. It is almost always going to be more profitable to do this, in no small part because once you reveal your secret sauce to the market, it gets priced in.

There's also the issue of user personas. There is no one generic investment strategy. A "good" investment is very different for a long-only vs. a long-short vs. a macro fund vs. an activist fund (and yes these are not mutually exclusive at all).

So, I think in order for this to become truly useful you need to make it more of an interactive tool to allow people to run their own analysis (vs having a "one size fits all" analysis). A few ways you could do this:

1) investments are done behind an investment thesis. Can you TRACK theses over time? For example, a merger arb thesis might be that a big M&A deal is on track (or not on track) to close. Can you track my THESIS, which almost becomes a detailed LLM prompt. E.g., "I think that Company X's acquisition of Company Y will close at the current offered price of $Z by date A, and key milestones are (1) regulatory approval on or around date B, (2) stock price converging toward the offered price of $Z as date A approaches, (3) positive sentiment on earnings calls about the acquisition by both Company X and Company Y"; let me know if earnings releases or calls or 8-Ks should make me update my thesis ("8-K came out that said that the target date of A has slipped by 90 days"). Or, "Company X said they bought Company Y and at the time expected revenues of $Z in three years; what compound quarterly growth rate does this imply" and then track that every quarter to see if they are on track or not

2) Can you help me track a specific question through each quarter—almost like automated BI / reported? Bloomberg/CapIQ/etc. will do this for GAAP metrics like revenue or COGS but often companies will report bespoke metrics. Can you help me track WeWork's community-adjusted EBITDA (lol) every quarter? Can you help me track business unit non-GAAP EBITDA with an addback for taxes every quarter? These are things that won't show up in your GAAP 3-statement model but for _individual_ companies may be super important

3) similarly can you help me run comparisons across companies? E.g., can I compare Vornado's total revenue (almost all office) to Bridge's office segment's revenue to SL Green's total revenue (also almost all office) and every quarter see how their relative revenue (market share) is changing? What about their occupancy and rent levels?

4) generic RAG/natural language search (when did SmartRent talk about their acquisition of Planon), although as noted, many competitors are doing this

All of the above are things that analysts do in real life and basically just track manually in Excel.

Again don't mean to be discouraging—I posted this in part because I think there is a ton of value here to (a) having a clean pipeline and (b) having a basic working knowledge of applying LLMs in a useful way. If helpful I'm happy to discuss more.

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#66

Is anyone trying to automate the detection of the rampant insider trading that is, no doubt, going on at present?

Finding insider trading is not the difficult part, it's being able to prosecute it that is going to be a challenge.

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#67
I love it. I think there is room for this product even though there are other options. This is clean and probably over time you can introduce more features as you get the feedback. Eventually you will be able to monetize but for now listen to your audience.

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#68
post #52

I read lots of quarterly report summaries. I like what you're doing here, but you need to be aware that AI summaries are already built into many existing platforms. So don't expect to be able to monetize this as it stands.

And way before the current wave of LLMs, I did some consulting for a company that provided these kind of summaries over a decade ago, and I’m sure they weren’t that early themselves

Yes, but:

1. These summaries were terrible. 2. The economics of these summaries was to get into Google News, spam newsfeeds, and use this to drive traffic to your paid product. This business model stopped working when Google News stopped accepting new sources for their Finance feed...because it was full of spam (I worked for a company that tried to start in this area with human writers, didn't work because they couldn't get onto Google).

Simply Wall St was one company that made tens of millions doing this, there were many others...but none were doing anything that is related to what OP is doing.

Every time someone will tell you something can't be done...this very clearly can work, it is not easy but ad revenue for financial services is still completely ludicrous and most services doing this are complete garbage (the news articles above the OP is producing are far from it, I worked in equity research, this is better than most journalism in the space...which is now non-existent...and probably at the level of a junior analyst).

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#69
Pretty cool, reminds me of content from SeekingAlpha.

I'm trying to do something unrelated with public companies, where did you get a list of all companies filing with the SEC? Or was it built based on whoever filed 8-Ks? A google search leads me to this list [0] but it's missing a few companies.

[0] https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/other/4-460list.htm

Re: Show HN: I made a free tool that analyzes SEC filings and posts detailed reports

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really nice of you to encourage, thank you! I've thought about some of those. The first one is an interesting idea, but offering any real financial advice is regulated, which is a tread carefully territory Second one is achievable and a good one at that. In fact, there is a lot of canonical data out there that when used carefully can provide a very nuanced picture of the current state of economy. Third one, currently…

Unpopular opinion here... If you tread carefully you'll most likely not succeed. I am not American and I know you guys like to sue eachother for putting cats in microwaves and stuff so maybe this is not great opinion to have in America at the current moment. I would go for it and put a disclaimer, or I would just incorporate in a country where there's no issues with these things. all this is hard of course to provide…

>Unpopular opinion here... If you tread carefully you'll most likely not succeed. I am not American and I know you guys like to sue eachother for putting cats in microwaves and stuff so maybe this is not great opinion to have in America at the current moment.

It's not actually about personal suits, financial advice may fall into financial services regulations and that's regulated by the government of the US, EU, etc. so wherever the company is registered may have issues in addition to the potential of the regulations applying to the individual and not shielded by the company.

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