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Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by hoherd »

The future feels more and more sci-fi every day. This gave me Molly Millions vibes:

> “You know about that toxin shit, before?” he asked her, by the fountain. She shook her head. “You think it’s true?”

> “Maybe, maybe not. Works either way.”

> “You know any way I can find out?”

> “No,” she said, her right hand coming up to form the jive for silence. “That kind of kink’s too subtle to show up on a scan.” Then her fingers moved again: wait. “And you don’t care that much anyway. I saw you stroking that Sendai; man, it was pornographic.” She laughed.

> “So what’s he got on you? How’s he got the working girl kinked?”

> “Professional pride, baby, that’s all.” And again the sign for silence. “We’re gonna get some breakfast, okay? Eggs, real bacon. Probably kill you, you been eating that rebuilt Chiba krill for so long. Yeah, come on, we’ll tube in to Manhattan and get us a real breakfast.”

But then they go to a secure location where they can talk.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by janice1999 »

pm90 wrote: post #2

This seems a bit of an overreaction. If im entering a gas station, I assume Im being recorded. Same should be true for a cab or rideshare.

Do gas stations perform speech to text and associate it with a user profile with your contact and payment information (perfect for advertisers)?

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by like_any_other »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #8
Bairfhionn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, is this an American thing to just accept that? "It's just like that."

While 'no expectation of privacy in public spaces' is an American thing, people in general accept any number otherwise awful things as long as they are part of the status quo. I mean, I can go on, but one only has to look at the history of man to look for appropriate examples.

The devshirme and the stasi also used to be part of the status quo. There are plenty of examples going the other way as well.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by cyanydeez »

bhouston wrote: post #31
belter wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Could see a nightmare scenario where companies like Palantir create such a system for domestic usage in the US. I can guarantee you such a system already exists.

> I can guarantee you such a system already exists. There is a limited one the US has built just to deport pro-Palestinian students from the US on visas: https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/u... The history of such "technology innovations" is that they generally do not stop at the initial scope, and likely will greatly expand its applicability to other groups, other opinions and for other purpo…

Clearview already wrongly identifies suspects for the police. It's definitely going to be used to _wrongly_ ________________ to benefit far right fascist ethnostate.

The question is really how much momentum has the accelerationists of whatever strips succeeded in.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by unsupp0rted »

reaperducer wrote: post #19
laborcontract wrote: post #7

With LLMs and the new transcription models it’s too easy for an individual to implement mass surveillance. You could easily plant listening devices around a cafe and pick up every conversation. I don’t think we’ve properly internalized this as a society. While I’m not saying to be paranoid everywhere you go, I do this there should be reasonable expectation of being tapped in higher value areas where people like to ca…

The last Lyft I took had two big stickers on the rear passenger-side window warning that by getting into the car, I give consent to being videotaped and audio recorded. But what are you going to do? Not get in? Then you have to pay a no-show fee, and eventually get banned from the app.

I prefer that they're video and audio recording. I just wish they'd share it with me after each ride as routine.

Auto-recording everything in public places would be safer for everybody. As long as it's also all on the public record.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by weinzierl »

mystraline wrote: post #21

So, the only defense is either "stfu", or make an ultrasonic transducer device to fill the area with ultrasonic static. Or, better, don't use lyft.

Ultrasonic static is easy to filter out if it is even picked up by the microphone. You'd need something broad band but in the hearing range, like ... music.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by [deleted] »

[deleted] wrote: post #39
pjc50 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sort of thing has been talked about since Echelon and Cointelpro. The missing bit is the final one, which is now arriving: enforcement. Which is why the Abrego Garcia case is so important. (as always, I think people have underestimated the extent to which some people want the awesome power of an authoritarian state to be wielded against other people .)

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Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by 5555624 »

jmb99 wrote: post #36
davweb wrote: post #10

It's easy to accidentally hit the microphone button that appears for any text field in almost all smartphone apps. The phone then transcribes any speech it hears and enters it into the field. I've done this. It's not hard to imagine a scenario where the driver had the message passenger view open in the Lyft app and accidentally recorded the conversation this way. This probably happens a lot but this time the driver a…

I was in an uber (in Canada) yesterday, and the app had a tiny message in the top right corner that “this ride is being recorded” (or something to that effect), which was only displayed after the driver picked me up. When tapped, it showed a screen that the ride was being recorded for passenger and driver safety, and that recordings were only available to uber support of the driver chose to send them. So clearly it’s…

In the past year, a number of times when I've arranged for a Lyft ride (Virginia, US), a notice has popped up that the driver has a camera and will be recording the ride for passenger and driver safety. Most of those rides have had cameras; but, not all of them. It's always prompted me to ask the driver about it.Some use them all the time, some said they only used them at night or on weekends.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by tristor »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #23

> These ride-sharing apps are big companies and people have a lot of sensitive conversations within cabs and they feel like they're secure why would anyone think talking in a car driven by a stranger is secure!?

There's a difference between having a conversation with the expectation it will be casually overheard and having a conversation with the expectation it's permanently recorded and will be analyzed, possibly leaked in the future in a world where you can trivially create vocal deep fakes with a few samples.

Re: She was chatting with friends in a Lyft. Then someone texted her what they said

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Post by gruez »

jmb99 wrote: post #36
davweb wrote: post #10

It's easy to accidentally hit the microphone button that appears for any text field in almost all smartphone apps. The phone then transcribes any speech it hears and enters it into the field. I've done this. It's not hard to imagine a scenario where the driver had the message passenger view open in the Lyft app and accidentally recorded the conversation this way. This probably happens a lot but this time the driver a…

I was in an uber (in Canada) yesterday, and the app had a tiny message in the top right corner that “this ride is being recorded” (or something to that effect), which was only displayed after the driver picked me up. When tapped, it showed a screen that the ride was being recorded for passenger and driver safety, and that recordings were only available to uber support of the driver chose to send them. So clearly it’s…

Even before this warning, I've seen Ubers/taxis with cameras in them, along with an accompanying warning sign.
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