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Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by renewiltord »

BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #131
renewiltord wrote: post #83

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People are such predictably complainers. When Google provided lots of benefits including daycare it was because “they want you to live there and have no life outside” and “the next step is company scrip”. Now, it’s because they want you to give up everything. Man, you can make millions working for big tech. At some point you have to take responsibility for your own self.

I mean, of all things for people to unfairly complain about, Google is one that I’m fine with.

I know, it’s peak HN-core to be that way.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by drivingmenuts »

jb1991 wrote: post #57
willidiots wrote: post #53

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One thing to be mindful of is that this limits your ability to help your partner as you age. State intervention can play both ways.

That’s unfortunate. And it’s a uniquely American mindset. Long-term relationships in Europe for example do not require marriage in the same way that Americans do. People get married in the states because of the law, people get married in other countries because they just want to get married for emotional or spiritual reasons.

I'm pretty sure that people here in the US get married for emotional and spiritual reasons far more than they do for legal reasons.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by dragonwriter »

nradov wrote: post #149
WillPostForFood wrote: post #95

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The required staffing at daycare isn't driven by "crime safety" but an overprotective sense of protecting kids from themselves and each other. These are the required ratios. As low as 1:4 for https://www.childcare.org/ckfinder/userfiles/files/Washingto...

A 4:1 ratio for infants seems quite reasonable and not overprotective. Children that age require a lot of attention. By the time you've fed and changed diapers for 4 babies it's about time to start the cycle again.

Having had kids and cared for them as infants myself, and previously worked in a (very much unlicensed) home-based daycare, the 1:4 ratio for childcare centers and 1:2-1:4 (depending on primary licensee's experience) ratio for home-based daycares for infants are not at all unreasonable.

Yes, most of time that's going to seem excessive -- but it is not a cloud system with on-demand autoscaling, you have to set your capacity by peak demand, not average demand.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by jb1991 »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #152
jb1991 wrote: post #57

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That’s unfortunate. And it’s a uniquely American mindset. Long-term relationships in Europe for example do not require marriage in the same way that Americans do. People get married in the states because of the law, people get married in other countries because they just want to get married for emotional or spiritual reasons.

I'm pretty sure that people here in the US get married for emotional and spiritual reasons far more than they do for legal reasons.

While I do get your point, marriage is so deeply ingrained into the legal and financial systems of the U.S. that I think many can't help but subconsciously attach these things that really should be independent.

Marriage unlocks a wide range of legal and financial benefits: access to a spouse’s health insurance, favorable tax treatment (like joint filing and estate tax breaks), and legal protections such as hospital visitation rights, inheritance without a will, and immigration sponsorship. It also affects Social Security, parental rights, and eligibility for things like pensions and veterans’ benefits. I mean, if you get married, in the States stuff is just all worked out automatically.

In many other countries, marriage is not attached to these things.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

renewiltord wrote: post #151
BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, of all things for people to unfairly complain about, Google is one that I’m fine with.

I know, it’s peak HN-core to be that way.

Why do you think im here?

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by watwut »

jfengel wrote: post #32
rileymat2 wrote: post #20

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This boggles my mind, porn only takes the place of a very small part of a healthy relationship.

Many people do a lousy job of looking after their own health, including their mental health. Having all of your sex come from porn is like having all of your meals come from McDonald's. And that's a choice you can make. It's probably not the best choice, but a fair number of people do in fact make it.

Then again, if what you primary want from relationship is sex, then it is better for everyone if you either use port or hop on some one-night-stand kind of scene/app.

Because stringing along some poor soul that looks for actual relationship and let her waste months to figure out this relationship was never going to happen sux.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by watwut »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #122

This article addresses how the 2015 SCotUS decision affected marriage stats. The factors in play then changed how I thought about marriage. My alignment in early 2010's was staunchly RW Christian. The 2015 changes in marriage law had me reconsider what marriage was historically. I came to some conclusions (that I mostly still agree with). My 'tribe' attached money and other benefits to marriage. This fundamentally re…

Historically marriage was economic and practical arrangement. People frequently married after fairly short time of knowing each other and the reasons were frequently that they had to - and not just because someone got pregnant.

Re: Half the men in Seattle are never-married singles, census data shows

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Post by nradov »

poisonborz wrote: post #150
nradov wrote: post #63

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There's hardly any place which is really "friendly" towards professional families with infants. For safety reasons, daycare centers have to maintain staffing ratios so it's always going to be extremely expensive (unless you're poor enough to qualify for subsidies). As for safety, for some reason those big tech employees keep voting for progressive politicians whose failed policies have ruined their cities. I guess vo…

Somehow most countries in the world can manage it to keep low cost or even free.

Really? Most countries? Do you have a list of those?

Some countries do manage to keep daycare somewhat affordable through huge subsidies (as well as lower wages for the daycare workers). I'm not opposed to increasing subsidies but that has to be balanced against other priorities. Elder care facilities face the same basic economic issue.

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