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I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by arend321 »

regularfry wrote: post #87
raffraffraff wrote: post #65

I tried this with the Viture Pro XR glasses last year and it sucks. Can't use it with Linux, except in dumb monitor mode. No head tracking unless you're using a supported OS. Android app sucks becaus you can't use it with any old app, eg productivity apps (their app is like a demo of head tracking that only supports stuff like YouTube and local media). Maybe I should have purchased the Xreals?

The first gen XReal glasses are similar in that you need software running on the host to get anything other than dumb monitor mode. With these newer models they've moved a bunch of the functionality into hardware on the glasses themselves, so you get virtual monitor and wider device support out of the box. There are a couple of projects that are trying to get better open source support of the Airs on linux; I've not…

Waiting for the XReal One Pro to vibe code using Aider and Samsung DeX in a Termux terminal while walking my countries national parks (just something I would like to try)

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by Retr0id »

throwaway290 wrote: post #129
Dylan16807 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not to mention most people would balk at their partner doing that when they share a bed. consider yourself lucky. but do check that you are giving enough attention to your partner otherwise. i have at least one friend who got divorced specifically because he was more interested in computers than his wife. The question was about a laptop as contrast to AR glasses. AR glasses are worse here.

What? Showing attention with laptop is much more difficult than with glasses on

What? You literally can't look away from a pair of AR glasses.

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by supermatt »

wordpad wrote: post #93
supermatt wrote: post #76

How can the xreal one glasses be 3Dof and stay in place while this guy is moving forward and backwards in his chair? https://us.shop.xreal.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/bc70020e90a74... https://us.shop.xreal.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/a2b82ae2ea714... I appreciate its a marketing video, but this is just a lie, no? What is the actual supported input resolution of the display? How do virtual monitors work - are they just a co…

You can check discord for a lot of people trying these out in various ways. The screen gets anchored to a direction and distance from you, so yes, leaning in would push the screen back (which feels natural, especially when you walk around).

in those videos i linked, the user is leaning in and the screen stays in the SAME position, which is why I am asking how it can be an accurate representation

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by supermatt »

skykooler wrote: post #101
supermatt wrote: post #76

How can the xreal one glasses be 3Dof and stay in place while this guy is moving forward and backwards in his chair? https://us.shop.xreal.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/bc70020e90a74... https://us.shop.xreal.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/a2b82ae2ea714... I appreciate its a marketing video, but this is just a lie, no? What is the actual supported input resolution of the display? How do virtual monitors work - are they just a co…

They do have accelerometers as well as gyroscopes, so technically they could integrate acceleration twice to keep track of position...but in practice it's way more reliable to just keep it at a constant distance from the head.

sure, but in the videos its NOT a constant distance from the head, hence the question

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by pridkett »

hoppp wrote: post #108
raffraffraff wrote: post #65

I tried this with the Viture Pro XR glasses last year and it sucks. Can't use it with Linux, except in dumb monitor mode. No head tracking unless you're using a supported OS. Android app sucks becaus you can't use it with any old app, eg productivity apps (their app is like a demo of head tracking that only supports stuff like YouTube and local media). Maybe I should have purchased the Xreals?

I have xreal air 2 that gets zero use. I dont recommend them that much, working on a laptop is better and since they constantly making newer versions its worth the wait to not buy anything current and wait for the next one which which will be better. I had the buyers regret, wishing I waited longer for the newer version but unless I buy a steam deck to play games Ill probably never use them.

Ditto. I bought them because I travel a lot for work and TVs at hotels are always a mess when it comes to HDMI in. I use them on maybe 1 of 4 flights I’m on (usually on SteamDeck with XR plug-in in Decky), and rarely at the hotels.

The only time they were really helpful for me was one flight when I had to work on some sensitive content and the person next to me was obviously trying to shoulder surf me.

Maybe it would be more productive if I had a newer iPhone with USB -C or the XReal One glasses. But having to use all the dongles to get to go from iPhone to lightning/HDMI adapter to HDMI to USB-C cable to original XReal Beam (which is way underpowered), to USB-C to glasses, that’s a ton of cables. And some forget, you’ve now got to pair your AirPods with the Beam! Ughh. It’s a little better with the Beam Pro. It’s faster and generally a good experience, but it’s still another device and still doesn’t have a good way to stream 3D content from Plex/NAS. Ugh.

That being said, when I put in the effort, the picture is very nice.

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by sathackr »

raffraffraff wrote: post #67
sathackr wrote: post #30

I've been doing this a few months now with an xreal one and minisforum um790. Same ability to power via usb-C and have other ports available. It's worked very well, the 1920x1080 resoultion of the glasses is pretty clear but I find "anchoring" the screen to be most usable because the edges do get a little blurry, but with the screen anchored you can just "look around" a little to bring them into focus. The biggest dr…

Same with the Viture Pro. The OLED is crisp and colourful but the resolution is too low to be useful for productivity unless they really nail the head tracking, and can support lots of virtual monitors (and they haven't done that).

yea I tried the Viture and the headtracking was nowhere near where it needed to be. I really liked everything else about the Viture Pros. They were lighter than the Xreal ones, generated less heat, and had individual diopter adjustments on each lense.

Xreal One however has rock-solid head tracking. It does drift occasionally but it's very tolerable. I returned the Viture Pro and ketp the Xreal one.

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Post by losvedir »

andybak wrote: post #121
Mortiffer wrote: post #98

Sounds like sponsored content. Every other review I have read people say they go back to laptop because the text fidelity, eye strain and keyboard on lap is just the best productivity setup

I'm over 50 and need reading glasses as well as distance glasses. I actually find working in the Quest 3 better than a laptop in many ways. The balance betweeen (virtual) screen size and focussing distance seems to be easier to balance. With a laptop the distance sweet spot for vision isn't always the same as the comfort sweet spot for posture. I could probably optimize my desk setup to improve this - but the point o…

Yeah, it's interesting because the focal distance in the Quest is a fixed ~5 ft, regardless of the apparent depth of the thing you're looking at in VR. This is a pretty comfortable spot for old eyes, so it can make things a little crisper compared to real life, at shorter and further apparent distances.

Though it comes with its own set of discomfort issues: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergence-accommodation_confl...

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Post by carpo »

arend321 wrote: post #131
regularfry wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first gen XReal glasses are similar in that you need software running on the host to get anything other than dumb monitor mode. With these newer models they've moved a bunch of the functionality into hardware on the glasses themselves, so you get virtual monitor and wider device support out of the box. There are a couple of projects that are trying to get better open source support of the Airs on linux; I've not…

Waiting for the XReal One Pro to vibe code using Aider and Samsung DeX in a Termux terminal while walking my countries national parks (just something I would like to try)

I was thinking the same while was walking my dog.

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by stavros »

justincormack wrote: post #127
jareds wrote: post #26

I got excided looking at this hoping there was a laptop with out a screen. I'm totally blind so the power draw of a screen is pointless. I currently use my ROG Alli with a Bluetooth keyboard to connect to my more powerful laptop which has a keyboard that's going bad. While this setup works well and the battery life is pretty good it would be much nicer if I didn't have to put a keyboard on my lap, and the Alli on a t…

He says he uses the Khadas Mind / Khadas Mind 2 which is a mini pc that has a battery so its pretty much a screenless laptop. Not clear the battery is very large but he uses an external one too as its usb c powered.

It says that the battery is for when you want to move the PC between desks, so I'd imagine it only lasts for five minutes or so.

Re: I ditched my laptop for a pocketable mini PC and a pair of AR glasses

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

gattr wrote: post #106
raffraffraff wrote: post #65

I tried this with the Viture Pro XR glasses last year and it sucks. Can't use it with Linux, except in dumb monitor mode. No head tracking unless you're using a supported OS. Android app sucks becaus you can't use it with any old app, eg productivity apps (their app is like a demo of head tracking that only supports stuff like YouTube and local media). Maybe I should have purchased the Xreals?

I'd like to try this kind of setup (coding from a lounge chair with just a keyboard tray & trackball, yay!), "dumb monitor" would be sufficient - but since switching to high-DPI displays in 2016 I really need this to be 4K.

If your monitor keeps following your head movements, even teeny tiny ones, it gets annoying very fast.
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