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Braxton1980 wrote: post #612
d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #418

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To be fair...the other side was just as ferocious when someone postulated that the election was rigged, or that COVID couldn't be stopped by masks. You're essentially asking for conservatives to be the bigger person and stop the blood feud. IMO both approaches should have been more measured, but who do you think will propose the ceasefire agreement?

>To be fair...the other side was just as ferocious when someone postulated that the election was rigged, No they weren't Not in the amount of court cases, elected politicans stating the view, and January 6th When a few Democrats starting objecting to the 2016 results. Joe Biden, in congress during the certification, slammed the gavel down and said "it's over" https://www.npr.org/2017/01/06/508562183/biden-to-democrat…

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NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #619
packetlost wrote: post #189

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He's married to a citizen which gives him an avenue towards legal residency and full citizenship. It doesn't matter anyways because the government admitted he was deported due to a administrative error and because they actively undermined and sidestepped the courts authority on several occasions, there is effectively nothing stopping them from doing it to full blown citizens. Honestly, it sounds like it's just a matt…

>He's married to a citizen which gives him an avenue towards legal residency and full citizenship. You seem as if you're trying to leverage that to actual citizen rights... "look, he could be a citizen someday, so that means he has these same rights reserved to citizens". But it does not work that way. >there is effectively nothing stopping them from doing it to full blown citizens. Be sure to raise the alarm when th…

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Post by karpatic »

ceejayoz wrote: post #740
karpatic wrote: post #738

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A judge gave the green light on deportationn just yesterday.

Immigration judges are "administrative judges" and work for the executive (i.e. Trump), not an independent branch. It'll be appealed to a Federal court now.

Mhmm! Thanks for adding context.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by bjourne »

mlindner wrote: post #642
Braxton1980 wrote: post #457

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>Another difference would be that you are allowed to express your opinion, whereas in russia you would be put to jail, that's true but only in a very limited way. Although not even close in number and punishment the US government is deporting people for speaking against Israel. I think we do have a much better system because we are aware of these cases, you can speak out about the issue, and our court system can rule…

> Although not even close in number and punishment the US government is deporting people for speaking against Israel. You and I both know that isn't true and repeating that doesn't help anyone but further implant in people's minds that the other side is completely irrational and cannot be reasoned with. No, the US government is deporting people for supporting terrorist organizations, something that's always been a di…

> No, the US government is deporting people for supporting terrorist organizations,

Has it deported anyone voicing support for the Israeli Defense Forces or any of the other Jewish supremacist terrorist organizations currently terrorizing Palestinians? Regardless, your claim that Khalil would have offered material support or even voiced support for a terrorist organization is baseless. Not that it matters either because saying "I love Hamas" is free speech and covered under the First Amendment.

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Post by michaelsshaw »

reissbaker wrote: post #729
michaelsshaw wrote: post #711

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1948

Interesting! And in this supposed 77 year long genocide, did the population size of Palestinians decrease?

Not a determining factor. Genocide is the commission of one of the five prohibited acts with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any national, ethnical, racial or religious group.

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Post by bjourne »

liorsbg wrote: post #689
throw310822 wrote: post #385

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So, we have proof of a strong algorithm manipulation by Israel on the entire family of main US social media (those used by the older segment of the population); and yet you still manage to point your finger to a hypothetical, unproved manipulation of the algorithm on the competitors' social media to explain the difference in attitude between generations? But you have the answer here, there has been manipulation of th…

Where’s the proof? Facebook agreeing to take down some contents that violates its policies is hardly proof of anything.

The proof is supplied by the article: "Multiple independent sources inside Meta confirmed the authenticity of the information provided by the whistleblowers. The data also show that Meta removed over 90,000 posts to comply with TDRs submitted by the Israeli government in an average of 30 seconds." 90k take-down requests in 18 months is quite a lot.

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Post by AlexGrothen »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

Well, there is a difference with Russia, actually. One of Palestinian professors, who studied freedom of speech, shaped it this way: The difference is that people from Russia, Arab countries etc DO know that their media is lying - but also they know the Western media is lying, because they read all that nonsense the westerners write about their countries.

Good for you that you started to realize how corrupt the Western media is.

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Post by bjourne »

edanm wrote: post #583
SauciestGNU wrote: post #549

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I don't. The dissolution of a state implies nothing about the disposition of its people or a violent end to said state.

You're technically correct of course. Then again, the overwhelming majority of people talking about Israel not having a right to exist are advocating for the violent overthrow of it that by when you're repeating their slogans, you're not advocating what they're advocating. Also, while there are some valid reasons for the idea that "Israel doesn't have a fundamental right to exist" (like if you think no state has a ri…

> You're technically correct of course.

That's the "correct" that matters. Not the "I'd like to put words in your mouth and pretend you meant something you don't". Israel is legal abstraction, not human life and as such has no "fundamental rights" whatsoever. Humans have fundamental rights, however, and those rights always trump the non-rights of state entities.

You do know that the reason Zionists harp on about "Israel's right to exist" is to deny the victim's of that state's violence legal redress, right?

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Post by sfx77 »

yoda97 wrote: post #98
mjevans wrote: post #35

I think my country (USA) would be healthier if a common sense viewpoint was selected and held. Conflicts are always terrible, and the Eurasia / Africa region countries are particularly brutal. Every citizen of every country has a human right (in a civilized civilization / society) to live a life that does not involve violence. A life where they are not worried about RPGs, bombings, (etc,) or military invasions. Some…

A two state solution is never possible when one state keeps expanding with impunity, and every time the second state resists it is called a terrorist state. My country resisted colonization in the mid 20th century and the resistance efforts were called terrorism by everyone, nobody calls them terrorists now.

Correction a two state solution is never possible when your neighbors are a terrorist organization backed by Iran, who coordinates with other terrorist organization who are also funded by Iran. This word play of calling Israel will not work. Unfortunately not everything is relative and words have actual meanings. When an organizations policy is to kidnap, torture, rape, and murder civilians with impunity, that is a terror organization, unlike the defense force of a democracy.
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