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$70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

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Who would be doing the shielding? The current US government has been operating under the assumption of an incredibly expansive executive power, even over "independent" agencies. I'm not a legal expert at all but so far the most useful mental model has been to assume absolutely no one is shielded from executive power (including organizations and people entirely outside the federal government) unless the courts have de…

How would a final court ruling shield someone from executive power? The court relies on the executive to enforce its decisions. They can find a person in contempt, and order fines or jail time until that person complies, but I believe the orders are then enforced by U.S. Marshals, who are executive appointees. This is a serious question. What have I missed?

If the Marshalls neglect their oath to the Constitution (whether ordered to by superiors or not) then the court can deputize others to carry out court orders. IIUC correctly that's usually the police.

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While I have no doubt that insider trading happens quite regularly, I would not jump to that conclusion here. IIRC the previous day, big Wall street names were advocating for a pause in tariffs . So a lot of people placed bets accordingly. Also staking 2.5M is "small change" for true insiders.

> So a lot of people placed bets accordingly But why not earlier in the day? Why this unique volume spike then? The one $2.5M is just a sample trade, part of a historic spike. No one's jumping to conclusions, but it should trigger an investigation.

Everyone is jumping to conclusions. The majority of comments on this thread are assuming this is at least someone with inside knowledge, and several are saying Trump or his administration are directly involved.

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Not sure that's true. America's military keeps peace for trade to happen in a lot of the world... Not always successfully but it's there. That works because they have the reserve currency and can therefore print money for free. Which benefits the US greatly in all sorts of ways. But everyone else also sees some good. If that goes away its going to have impacts on everyone else as well as America. Maybe not as much of…

I really don't think we do. France and Britain alone used to be able to defend trade routes. I don't think it's a huge expense. It really is good for essentially everyone aside from the US itself, once the disruption is over. Obviously we'll have some kind of crash though, but I think that was inevitable with or without this.

>> France and Britain alone used to be able to defend trade routes. I don't think it's a huge expense.

That was a different world. France and Britain today have nowhere the kind of force projection the USA does, via its military bases and aircraft carriers.

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That same day after market close Trump directly told us it was insider trading AND who dun it. He literally bragged that his friend made 2.5 billion and the other 900 million that day. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1jvyryz/tru...

Do you have anything that ties together this trade with those investors?

Anyone who held equities that day were up 6-7%, so many billionaires were up that much or more without touching their holdings.

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A few years back the US labeled China a “state manipulator” of currency. Surely it will only take a few more rounds of pump and dumping the entire US economy for basically every country to label the US the same, and move away from US bonds and the US dollar as reserve currency. It just won’t be stable enough with all these antics. When it happens I just hope trump won’t use it as justification for war.

didn’t you get the memo, Trump is the President of Peace. people voted for him because of this :)))

Two carrier strike groups deployed in the area and B2 bombers moved to Diego Garcia.

We will see.

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> We don’t know who placed the trades. We don’t know what they knew. Actually, “we”, collectively, do know, because the SEC maintains an “XKEYSCORE for equities” called CAT. If there was interest, the government could know exactly who placed these trades. But the call (options) are coming from inside the house.

What would determine whether the SEC will investigate for insider trading? I would expect them to be shielded from executive pressure.

When the criminals get root access...

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How would a final court ruling shield someone from executive power? The court relies on the executive to enforce its decisions. They can find a person in contempt, and order fines or jail time until that person complies, but I believe the orders are then enforced by U.S. Marshals, who are executive appointees. This is a serious question. What have I missed?

If the Marshalls neglect their oath to the Constitution (whether ordered to by superiors or not) then the court can deputize others to carry out court orders. IIUC correctly that's usually the police.

I cannot overstate this enough: The police cannot be counted on to protect citizens against governmental overreach.

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The reality is more nuanced. Take China for example. People do criticize the government online all the time. It's just that criticism magically disappears before it reaches critical mass. Generally China does not throw people (Han Chinese, minorities are different) into gulag for posting against the government. They are just constantly censoring and shaping the discussion. Only after they can't contain something they…

Genuinely curious: what do you see as the distinction between an illiberal democracy and a fascist dictatorship? And if there is a significant difference, what stops one becoming the other?

Elections aren't rigged but everything else is rigged, like media is controlled by government or opposition candidates are jailed.

In Russia the elections actually are rigged and China doesn't have elections so they are both dictatorships.

Granted the line between them is fuzzy so it's more helpful to think of it as a spectrum.

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