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Google is winning on every AI front

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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I would like to know how he manages to appear, in every single photo I see of him, to look slightly but unmistakenly... moist , or at least sweaty.

People keep assassinating him, and clones always look a bit moist the first day out of the pod.

Are the assassinations because of something we already know about? some new advance that is still under wraps? or is it time travelers with knowledge about what he will do if left unchecked?

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

#102

Google is winning on every front except... marketing (Google has a chatbot?), trust (who knew the founding fathers were so diverse?), safety (where's the 2.5 Pro model card?), market share (fully one in ten internet users on the planet are weekly ChatGPT users), and, well, vibes (who's rooting for big G, exactly?). But I will admit, Gemini Pro 2.5 is a legit good model. So, hats off for that.

I wouldn't even say Gemini Pro 2.5 is the best model. Certainly not when you do multimodal or function calling, which is what actually matters in industry applications. Plain chatbots are nice, but I don't think they will decide who wins the race. Google is also no longer in the mindset to really innovate. You'll hear surprisingly similar POVs from ex-Googlers and ex-OpenAI guys. I'd actually say OpenAI still has an edge in terms of culture, even through it fell deep.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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> (And don't let me get started with Sam Altman.) Please do.

I would like to know how he manages to appear, in every single photo I see of him, to look slightly but unmistakenly... moist , or at least sweaty.

He's certainly a damp boy.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #86

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March 11th was when the alarm one was From, these are just ones that I have screenshot because they were so bad I shared with a friend. https://imgur.com/a/nj4newx Edit: I just asked it for the weather this week and it only showed today. Like this is Amateur hour stuff, Siri 1.0 stuff. https://imgur.com/a/81mz98Y

I can replicate your weather one! I think it's taking "this week" extremely literally and the week ends on Saturday. Asking for "this weekend" gives Saturday and Sunday. Asking for the next few days gives 3 days out, etc . Definitely not addressing the spirit of the request.

> and the week ends on Saturday.

Except it doesn't, in literally every other country other then Japan, USA and Canada it ends on Sunday.

Edit: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/days/first-day-of-the-w...

I'm wrong on the countries, it's more split then I thought. Regardless it's wrong for my geo which google knows I'm in.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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If google's AI is doing so great why are the "questions and answers" near thr lle search so bad?

Also the search quality itself went downhill. There was a great article about that on HN some time ago.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #86

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March 11th was when the alarm one was From, these are just ones that I have screenshot because they were so bad I shared with a friend. https://imgur.com/a/nj4newx Edit: I just asked it for the weather this week and it only showed today. Like this is Amateur hour stuff, Siri 1.0 stuff. https://imgur.com/a/81mz98Y

I can replicate your weather one! I think it's taking "this week" extremely literally and the week ends on Saturday. Asking for "this weekend" gives Saturday and Sunday. Asking for the next few days gives 3 days out, etc . Definitely not addressing the spirit of the request.

GP said they were in Sydney. As far as I know, the week officially starts on Monday in Australia. That's also the case for most of Europe, BTW. Maybe their locale wasn't set right or it's another case of American software assuming weird American standards for the rest of the world.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

#107

As an Ex-OpenAI employee I agree with this. Most of the top ML talent at OpenAI already have left to either do their own thing or join other startups. A few are still there but I doubt if they'll be around in a year. The main successful product from OpenAI is the ChatGPT app, but there's a limit on how much you can charge people for subscription fees. I think soon people expect this service to be provided for free an…

> I think soon people expect this service to be provided for free and ads would become the main option to make money out of chatbots.

I also think adtech corrupting AI as well is inevitable, but I dread for that future. Chatbots are much more personal than websites, and users are expected to give them deeply personal data. Their output containing ads would be far more effective at psychological manipulation than traditional ads are. It would also be far more profitable, so I'm sure that marketers are salivating at this opportunity, and adtech masterminds are hard at work to make this a reality already.

The repercussions of this will be much greater than we can imagine. I would love to be wrong, so I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

#108
Is it just my computer or do others also have huge performance problems in somewhat large chats in AI Studio?

They really need to fix this.

It gets to a point where on each submit Google Chrome pops up a "wait | close tab" dialog.

I then have to use AI Studio for the "big picture" in one tab and ChatGPT in the smaller subtasks which help with the big picture.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

#109
I chat with Gemini Pro 2.5 Exp in Continue.dev IntelliJ plugin. I told it to "implement this method" and it even suggested improvements in other files (that were included in context). I feel like talking to a person.

BUT more often than not, it stopped halfway (the code, so it's unusable). I'm not sure if it's the plugin that cannot handle the response, but it never happens with Claude.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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This article doesn't mention TPUs anywhere. I don't think it's obvious for people outside of google's ecosystem just how extraordinarily good the JAX + TPU ecosystem is. Google several structural advantages over other major players, but the largest one is that they roll their own compute solution which is actually very mature and competitive. TPUs are extremely good at both training and inference[1] especially at sca…

And yet google's main structural disadvantage is being google. Modern BERT with the extended context has solved natural language web search. I mean it as no exaggeration that _everything_ google does for search is now obsolete. The only reason why google search isn't dead yet is that it takes a while to index all web paged into a vector database. And yet it wasn't google that released the architecture update, it was…

This would be like claiming in 2010 that because Page Rank is out there, search is a solved problem and there’s no secret sauce, and the following decade proved that false.
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