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$70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

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Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#11
The stock market needs to just be deleted. It’s the insider trading scam machine of the rich class.

The whole goal of the stock market is to come up with information that people don’t generally have (insider trading) either from research, or secret info, so you can dupe everyone else’s money.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

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> We don’t know who placed the trades. We don’t know what they knew. Actually, “we”, collectively, do know, because the SEC maintains an “XKEYSCORE for equities” called CAT. If there was interest, the government could know exactly who placed these trades. But the call (options) are coming from inside the house.

What would determine whether the SEC will investigate for insider trading? I would expect them to be shielded from executive pressure.

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Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#13
A relevant aside: surely insider trading is happening all the time? There are so many daily market-shifting events involving so many privy parties that it seems inevitable to happen every few minutes (not defending the actions in the article).

How many physicians have been able to get rich from learning a CEO will be out of commission? In that case, I'm not even sure whether it would be considered insider trading.

How does one even go about accusing someone of insider trading? The illegality sounds pretty unenforceable.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#14

A relevant aside: surely insider trading is happening all the time? There are so many daily market-shifting events involving so many privy parties that it seems inevitable to happen every few minutes (not defending the actions in the article). How many physicians have been able to get rich from learning a CEO will be out of commission? In that case, I'm not even sure whether it would be considered insider trading. Ho…

In the past, we liked to pretend this was illegal. Now we don't even bother with that.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#15
post #8

> We don’t know who placed the trades. We don’t know what they knew. Actually, “we”, collectively, do know, because the SEC maintains an “XKEYSCORE for equities” called CAT. If there was interest, the government could know exactly who placed these trades. But the call (options) are coming from inside the house.

What would determine whether the SEC will investigate for insider trading? I would expect them to be shielded from executive pressure.

SEC is a federal agency so falls under the Executive which is controlled by Trump. Trump will fire any SEC employee who investigates the "wrong" people and install a loyalist in their place.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#16
post #8

> We don’t know who placed the trades. We don’t know what they knew. Actually, “we”, collectively, do know, because the SEC maintains an “XKEYSCORE for equities” called CAT. If there was interest, the government could know exactly who placed these trades. But the call (options) are coming from inside the house.

What would determine whether the SEC will investigate for insider trading? I would expect them to be shielded from executive pressure.

> I would expect them to be shielded from executive pressure.

In the past month the SEC has stopped most enforcement actions involving crypto.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#18
These sort of trades happy fairly regularly, before market breaking news in individual stock names.

Just search for SEC insider trading cases. When they happen in options they are often pretty obvious unless the market is moving with real momentum the same way, and even then, option sellers will report you if they think it is suspicious. (By obvious, I mean, regulators should start asking questions - of course there can be a multitude of reasons.)

The difference here is that absolutely NO ONE on any side of politics seems to think the SEC & DOJ will pursue these.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#19
While I have no doubt that insider trading happens quite regularly, I would not jump to that conclusion here. IIRC the previous day, big Wall street names were advocating for a pause in tariffs . So a lot of people placed bets accordingly. Also staking 2.5M is "small change" for true insiders.

Re: $70M in 60 Seconds: How Insider Info Helped Someone 28x Their Money

#20

> We don’t know who placed the trades. We don’t know what they knew. Actually, “we”, collectively, do know, because the SEC maintains an “XKEYSCORE for equities” called CAT. If there was interest, the government could know exactly who placed these trades. But the call (options) are coming from inside the house.

You keep the receipts for about 4 years and you speak up one minute after the government changes. You get it done long before the following election.
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