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Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by PathOfEclipse »

ang_cire wrote: post #262
PathOfEclipse wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://effectiviology.com/credentials-fallacy/ Also I've provided more than ample evidence that HRW is deeply compromised on this issue and has been for many years: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/29/human-rights-w...

Oh look, the "ample evidence" link you provide is ALSO an opinion statement, and it's written by... > Elie Wiesel, Prof Alan Dershowitz, R James Woolsey, Elliott Abrams, Tom Gross, Prof Judea Pearl, Douglas Murray Hmmmm, none of those people are famously biased towards Israel.... Also, you are misusing Credentials Fallacy to dismiss the difference between factual reporting and opinion. If I dismissed a peer-reviewed…

No. I'm saying what you call "factual reporting" is inaccurate and dishonest propaganda. And the "opinion pieces" I'm sharing are all based on facts and realities.

If any source is deserving of a comparison to InfoWars here it's HRW itself. You can't unilaterally smear every right-of-center source as completely untrustworthy and expect to stay on the side of reality for long.

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Post by esalman »

ipv6ipv4 wrote: post #319
esalman wrote: post #94

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I am part of a neighborhood group where I grew up in Bangladesh and lived until 5th grade in the 90s. The group admin this morning let us know via Facebook post that he has received warnings frm Facebook. The group is "at a risk of being suspended" because way too many posts relating to "dangerous organization and individuals" have been removed. He wants everyone to be extra careful when posting about p*l*s*i*e, I*r*…

Makes you wonder what kind of posts about Jews a local Bangladeshi group is posting... Or why.

They're writing posts on Facebook, not dropping bomb on anyone. Relax.

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Post by chacham15 »

googlryas wrote: post #13

I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.

Since nobody here has actually read the article, it states that the reason the posts were taken down was "prohibits incitement to terrorism praise for acts of terrorism and identification or support of terror organizations." This type of speech (incitement) is illegal in the United States and support is very borderline depending on the type and meaning of "support". Now, if the reason doesnt match the actual content removed that should definitely be addressed which is your point, but I think that the reason is valid.

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Post by dijit »

nashashmi wrote: post #167
googlryas wrote: post #13

I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.

Every pro Palestinian protestor has experienced some form of awareness suppression and content removal. They have known this was a thing long before anyone else did. Same thing happened during 9/11. Muslims saw suppression, bullying by the police and no one covered it. Then the tables turned on maga republicans after j6.

I’m too stupid to navigate this topic in anything other than a crude and adolescent way, however I think it could be tricky for pro-palestinians because they can fall easily into the trap of using party slogans used by proscribed organisations.

My understanding of Hamas is that they are not considered a legitimate army, but if they were they would be guilty of an insurmountable number of war crimes (not unlike the IDF as many would say). Showing support for such things is beyond reasonable accepted discourse in my home country.

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Post by jmathai »

breppp wrote: post #279
jmathai wrote: post #236

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Where did you read they are funded by Qatar? Some quick searching indicates that's false. [1] https://www.hrw.org/financials [2] https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/human-rights-watch...

HRW was caught in the past soliciting donations from Saudis in return for restricting their Middle East reporting [1] Project Raven, a UAE offensive cyber operation has leaked a document by the Qatar government concerning financing of HRW [2][3] [1] https://theintercept.com/2020/03/02/human-rights-watch-took-... [2] https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1700763578-human-... [3] https://www.memri.org/reports/rave…

Thanks for sharing. I don't personally see how those disqualify the information in the article though.

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Post by someotherperson »

breppp wrote: post #233
mef51 wrote: post #44

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The HRW report[1] goes into details, at least on the 1050 takedowns they documented > A Human Rights Watch (HRW) report investigating Meta’s moderation of pro-Palestine content post-October 7th found that, of 1,050 posts HRW documented as taken-down or suppressed on Facebook or Instagram, 1,049 involved peaceful content in support of Palestine, while just one post was content in support of Israel." [1] https://www.hr…

HRW is a "complicated" organization. It took money from Saudis in return for not advocating for LGBT rights in the middle east [1]. It agreed to take money from the Qatari government, a government that also supports Hamas [2][3] and is involved in corruption cases and buying of politicians all over the world. [1] https://theintercept.com/2020/03/02/human-rights-watch-took-... [2] https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle…

This feels like a dog whistle rather than providing something substantive.

The Israeli government also helped facilitate Qatar's support for Hamas[0], what's your point here?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#Isra...

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Post by kotaKat »

PathOfEclipse wrote: post #171
moogly wrote: post #148

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> Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History Well, they're not very good in preventing civilian casualties. I'm pretty sure they rank pretty fucking high on the list of causing civilian casualties, actually. Most other nations don't need any such measures implemented since, you know, they don't commit genocide. "You should be happy we didn't kill more people, beca…

Do you have a list of rankings for different wars and countries? Yeah. Of course not.

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