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Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by 0xEF »

miohtama wrote: post #8
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #4

What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. That surely won't backfire and will cement bluesky as a Xitter alternative.

Bluesky audience is certain kind, more left leaning, finding corporations evil. Adobe's experiment shows that it is unlikely any big corp could go there any time until the audience is more diverse, less cancel culture.

> more diverse, less cancel culture

I love when people use this to mean "more white and conservative."

Bluesky users lean toward hating corporate greed. Adobe is greedy as fuck. Simple as. They and companies like them can stay off.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by Molitor5901 »

megaman821 wrote: post #14

As a lurker on both Bluesky and Twitter, I find Bluesky is a much more hostile place. Twitter is much more absurd but there is not as much anger.

I'm pretty left leaning and I don't like Bluesky. For me, it's too hostile and too much of an angry echo chamber. X is scattered wildly but I with muting I have been able to shape to get a more reasonable feed.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by ChocolateGod »

0xEF wrote: post #61
miohtama wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bluesky audience is certain kind, more left leaning, finding corporations evil. Adobe's experiment shows that it is unlikely any big corp could go there any time until the audience is more diverse, less cancel culture.

> more diverse, less cancel culture I love when people use this to mean "more white and conservative." Bluesky users lean toward hating corporate greed. Adobe is greedy as fuck. Simple as. They and companies like them can stay off.

Are you claiming cancel culture isn't real?

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by simonw »

magicmicah85 wrote: post #58
simonw wrote: post #36

Yeah, they posted this: > Hey, we're Adobe! We're here to connect with the artists, designers, and storytellers who bring ideas to life. What's fueling your creativity right now? > Drop a reply, tag a creator, or share your latest work—we'd love to see what inspires you! That's such a bland, corporate message. It feels totally inauthentic. Do Adobe (a corporation) really "love to see what inspires you" or do they jus…

They want engagement for their new account, it's what anyone who posts on social media wants.

Right, but you need to be a whole lot less obvious about it. Adobe's message here is a case study in what NOT to do.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by Apreche »

vachina wrote: post #53
Apreche wrote: post #41

I’m always the first one to criticize companies for exploitative and evil business practices. Adobe is far from innocent. However, I will argue their subscription model itself is actually better than the previous model. The reality is that Adobe has a large team of engineers to create and maintain several high end professional digital art creation tools. They also frequently add new and excellent features to those to…

> than a huge cash infusion every other year and a trickle until your next release It’s a very good incentive to keep the entire company on their toes. Adobe will have to keep making new features for people to justify paying for a new version, instead of rehashing the same software, and then rent-seek with a subscription.

That’s a good point, but it hasn’t borne out in reality. Creative Cloud is frequently adding new features, some of which are quite incredible. Project Turntable that they demonstrated last year honestly blew me away.

Also, several of their products face stiff competition. They have to keep pushing Premiere to fend off Davinci and Final Cut.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by ChocolateGod »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #62
megaman821 wrote: post #14

As a lurker on both Bluesky and Twitter, I find Bluesky is a much more hostile place. Twitter is much more absurd but there is not as much anger.

I'm pretty left leaning and I don't like Bluesky. For me, it's too hostile and too much of an angry echo chamber. X is scattered wildly but I with muting I have been able to shape to get a more reasonable feed.

Likewise here, the amount of just pure made up crap/misinformation on X has definitely increased (perhaps because accounts get paid for views/engagement now) or the algorithm seems to push it more, but it's not an echo chamber.

I have at least 100 words on my X muted word list and it's just about usable.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by [deleted] »

teraflop wrote: post #9
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #4

What a great idea, scaring companies probing bluesky. That surely won't backfire and will cement bluesky as a Xitter alternative.

Maybe, just maybe, the platforms that we use to engage socially with other human beings don't also have to be organized around engaging commercially with brands.

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Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by cryptopian »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #6

This was fascinating to see unfold. What if there was a social network that had taste and rejected things that suck? Is it a failure of Bluesky to never become the global town square, if it means being a place where a brand can't find it a safe space to promote itself? Can a social network thread the needle of having enough traffic to be worthwhile but not so much as to attract the Eternal September?

Maybe a better question is whether we even need a global town square. I've had Twitter and Bluesky and the difference between them and a real town square is that you're always performing publically to an audience you can't possibly know. I've found far more rewarding relationships posting on niche forums and even subreddits because you get a sense of the people who use and administrate them, and you're safe in the knowledge you can't easily find virality.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by masswerk »

magicmicah85 wrote: post #58
simonw wrote: post #36

Yeah, they posted this: > Hey, we're Adobe! We're here to connect with the artists, designers, and storytellers who bring ideas to life. What's fueling your creativity right now? > Drop a reply, tag a creator, or share your latest work—we'd love to see what inspires you! That's such a bland, corporate message. It feels totally inauthentic. Do Adobe (a corporation) really "love to see what inspires you" or do they jus…

They want engagement for their new account, it's what anyone who posts on social media wants.

Yes, but it's not what social media users want. How about posting tips, small micro courses, behind the scene stories about what motivated some choices in the app, anything useful or endearing? Not just harvesting likes and account names?

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

adzm wrote: post #28

Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care. The AI features in Photoshop are the best around in my experience and come in handy constantly for all sorts of touchup work. Anyway I don't really think they deserve a lot of the hate they get, but I do hope this encourages development of viable alternatives to their products. Photoshop is still pretty much p…

> Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical

Adobe is cannibalizing their paid C-Suite artists by pumping out image generators to their enterprise customers. How is that ethical? They are double dipping and screwing over their longtime paying artists

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