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Lead is still bad for your brain

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Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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You can request blood lead labs done through your doctor. People who work in industry and competition shooters and such will get that done to track.

Competition shooters? They're not likely to touch lead, unless they fatally disobey shooting range safety rules. Now the people manufacturing the bullets for those competition shooters... they need lead tests.

It’s not obvious, but practice enough at indoor ranges or reload your own competition ammo long enough. I have heard firsthand accounts from shooters who at some point weren’t feeling well, got tested, and found out they needed to be a lot more careful with their lead exposure.

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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You can request blood lead labs done through your doctor. People who work in industry and competition shooters and such will get that done to track.

Competition shooters? They're not likely to touch lead, unless they fatally disobey shooting range safety rules. Now the people manufacturing the bullets for those competition shooters... they need lead tests.

A small amount of lead makes its way out of the chamber in the form of dust and fumes after shooting. It’s quite easy to breath this in or get it on your hands and accidentally ingest it. Not enough to matter for someone who occasionally goes to the range, but significant for those shooting nearly daily, especially if shooting indoors.

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can request blood lead labs done through your doctor. People who work in industry and competition shooters and such will get that done to track.

Competition shooters? They're not likely to touch lead, unless they fatally disobey shooting range safety rules. Now the people manufacturing the bullets for those competition shooters... they need lead tests.

A lot of primers have lead, and the dust ends up in the air.

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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This is a great article on the biology of lead exposure.

Unfortunately on the exposure side research wasn’t done and it propagates the myth that lead exposure is only an issue for those with lead pipes or lead paint. It’s true that these are the main sources of severe lead exposure. However the article points out that there is no safe level of exposure to lead and these aren’t the main ways we are exposed to lead in the US anymore.

Today we are mostly exposed by low level contamination and thankfully this usually results in only mildly elevated lead levels. In a toddler sticking things in the mouth this could be almost any object. For adults it is food and drinks and the objects we use to make them.

I know this because my toddler had elevated lead levels even though our neighborhood never had lead paint and our water does not have lead (I tested the water coming out of our faucets).

The US has few laws against lead contamination and they aren’t very stringent and there is little proactive enforcement. This non profit has ended up creating several recalls after reporting their own testing: https://tamararubin.com/category/recall/ Most of the recalls were products marketed for children such as baby bottles. But if a child eats off an adult plate there aren’t any laws against that being contaminated.

Some actions you can take are:

  * test children’s lead levels and your own
  * make sure toddlers aren't playing with old toys (pre 1978 really risky, after 2010 is best)
  * stop buying things that have a prop 65 warning (I know prop 65 isn’t perfect, but it’s often a lead warning).
  * Remove risky objects like the above from your children’s classrooms.
  * For cooking and food and drinks use clear glass, stainless steel, and cast iron
  * avoid processed foods. There are a lot of particulars here about what is most likely to be high in lead. Chocolate, spices, salt, and cassava products are particularly high in heavy metals.

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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> “even if we were to completely stop mining for and using lead (which we aren’t, since the lead-acid battery market is projected to increase in the next years”

I’m surprised by this. Modern cars (EVs, at least) have started replacing their 12V lead batteries with Li-ion, which are more durable, store much more energy, and of course are less toxic.

But in any case, isn’t the one advantage of lead-acid batteries their recyclability? Don’t 99%+ of lead batteries get recycled into new lead batteries?

Surely there can’t be all that much new lead being mined for batteries?

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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I live with children in a very old house. I would love to be able to measure my children's lead exposure and check things like window paint or house dust for lead content to see how big a problem there is. How do I do that?

For the house, hire a professional inspector who will use an x-ray fluoresence meter and dust test strips. You want a professional because they will be more thorough, and check things that you would not know to check.

To test your children's exposure, you can have their blood tested. They may very well be exposed from sources other than your house

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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Radiation shielding. There's a lot of it in industry involving electron beam processing which produces x-rays. From printing machines using EB set ink, welding, melting, cross-linking, etc. A lot of those machines are lead shielded. Even at particle accelerator labs I've walked past stacks of lead bricks around beam lines (esp around the injector)

Sucks that there's so much use for something so dangerous. Amazing the perils we have both dug up and invented in the pursuit of progress which is ultimately just making money.

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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Competition shooters? They're not likely to touch lead, unless they fatally disobey shooting range safety rules. Now the people manufacturing the bullets for those competition shooters... they need lead tests.

It’s not obvious, but practice enough at indoor ranges or reload your own competition ammo long enough. I have heard firsthand accounts from shooters who at some point weren’t feeling well, got tested, and found out they needed to be a lot more careful with their lead exposure.

Interesting. I'm obviously not from a shooting culture :)

Re: Lead is still bad for your brain

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>Now, acute effects of lead exposure are pretty clear. If someone were to chomp down on a piece of lead, it would result in seizures, coma, and possibly death.

Tell that to anglers. Chomping down on lead is how to put weights on the line.

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