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Re: A university president makes a case against cowardice

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Post by trustinmenowpls » Fri, Apr 11, 2025, 12:36 AM UTC

viccis wrote: post #929

trustinmenowpls wrote: post #921

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes now you've corrected the terms, in your previous comment you claimed the motte was calls for genocide. Regardless, I'm defending what you're calling the bailey as it's easily defensible based on observable current events. Care to explain how Kristallnacht is in any way different from an intifada? They are literally the same thing, a disorganized mob raping, murdering and attacking innocent civilians. The Arabs ha…

>Care to explain how Kristallnacht is in any way different from an intifada Calls for a "global intifada" are simply calls to oppose the existence of the state of Israel as a settler colony in the land formerly known as Palestine. That's it. It is an immoral country, built by settlers as an ethnostate, and its existence is a moral stain on the world. Has literally nothing to do with "Jews" (I feel the same way about…

Your whole comment is a lie and you and I both know that but I appreciate you lying so openly, makes it much easier to know who the nazis are. There is literally no difference between intifada and Kristallnacht, or a pogrom or a lynch mob, they're all the same thing. You haven't explained at all how they're different, instead you again whitewashed two 5+ year periods of murder, terror, harassment, hate, bigotry, and abuse that was directed at jews, and you are now saying more is needed because of an imagined history of "ethnic cleansing" by some supposed "ethnostate" (whatever that means). You claim Jews are a moral stain on the world... which again sounds so similar to what a certain failed Austrian artist whose book happens to be super popular in gaza used to say...

Really, you right now are guilty of the motte and bailey fallacy, because as you just made up a bunch of indefensible claims so I really am interested to know what your motte is here. how turn the tables...

Re: A university president makes a case against cowardice

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Post by low_tech_love » Fri, Apr 11, 2025, 6:43 AM UTC

ninalanyon wrote: post #918

low_tech_love wrote: post #425

Some personal highlights: "They’re excellent schools, and they have excellent scientists, and if one of Vice-President Vance’s kids is sick, he’s going to want the doctor to have gone to one of these schools; he’s not going to want them to have gone to Viktor Orbán’s university." "People have said to me, “Well, you take all that money from the government, why don’t you listen to them?” The answer is, because the mone…

Surely he could have expressed himself better than that. Insulting some other country's universities seems a very odd thing to do when trying to make a point about your own universities. This is especially odd as the choice of country to insult has several universities that are well inside the top 10% worldwide and rank higher than Wesleyan. We should expect better rhetoric from the rector of a liberal arts universit…

There was no insult. The point is very clear if you are not trying to intentionally make him look bad. He said that Vance would never send his kids to a hospital in Hungary; he never said hospitals in Hungary are bad, or that Hungarians are peasants, for example. What he’s trying to show you is that you’re being manipulated, that what they say is not what they do, so you shouldn’t believe them. But I guess most people prefer to trust the snake oil sellers than open their eyes.

Edit: and by the way Orbán is not Hungary, in the same way that Trump is not America, although they would very much like you to think so. I wonder why?

Re: A university president makes a case against cowardice

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Post by viccis » Sat, Apr 12, 2025, 9:00 AM UTC

trustinmenowpls wrote: post #931

viccis wrote: post #929

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Care to explain how Kristallnacht is in any way different from an intifada Calls for a "global intifada" are simply calls to oppose the existence of the state of Israel as a settler colony in the land formerly known as Palestine. That's it. It is an immoral country, built by settlers as an ethnostate, and its existence is a moral stain on the world. Has literally nothing to do with "Jews" (I feel the same way about…

Your whole comment is a lie and you and I both know that but I appreciate you lying so openly, makes it much easier to know who the nazis are. There is literally no difference between intifada and Kristallnacht, or a pogrom or a lynch mob, they're all the same thing. You haven't explained at all how they're different, instead you again whitewashed two 5+ year periods of murder, terror, harassment, hate, bigotry, and…

If you don't know what an ethnostate is, you shouldn't have posted this so late on a school night hahaha

But am I to understand from your comment that the current campaign in Gaza is intrinsically tied to Judaism?

Re: A university president makes a case against cowardice

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Post by trustinmenowpls » Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 1:58 AM UTC

viccis wrote: post #933

trustinmenowpls wrote: post #931

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your whole comment is a lie and you and I both know that but I appreciate you lying so openly, makes it much easier to know who the nazis are. There is literally no difference between intifada and Kristallnacht, or a pogrom or a lynch mob, they're all the same thing. You haven't explained at all how they're different, instead you again whitewashed two 5+ year periods of murder, terror, harassment, hate, bigotry, and…

If you don't know what an ethnostate is, you shouldn't have posted this so late on a school night hahaha But am I to understand from your comment that the current campaign in Gaza is intrinsically tied to Judaism?

What does that even mean?

Why not answer the original question instead of speaking in non sequiturs?