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Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by dumbfounder »

genter wrote: post #52
EncomLab wrote: post #20

The generations in my family are full of people who had dementia/Alzheimer's/auto-immune disorders. They all had anxiety, and they all had sleep disorders - I'm certain there is a connection among it all. I joined a Stanford study and had a spinal tap sample submitted for testing - in theory I am "unlikely" to develop anything for the next 20 years - but that only gets me to my late 60's :(

Same, except we also have digestive issues. I'm really hoping a paleo diet and good probiotics will save me. It's already helped me a lot. I'll let you know in 40 years if it prevents me from getting Alzheimer's.

If you remember to do so.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by roman_soldier »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #66
fooster wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're called a bedroom.

Obviously he means a room for one person to sleep. It’s called a bedroom too but he knows that and so do you.

That's called a divorce

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by iknowSFR »

genter wrote: post #52
EncomLab wrote: post #20

The generations in my family are full of people who had dementia/Alzheimer's/auto-immune disorders. They all had anxiety, and they all had sleep disorders - I'm certain there is a connection among it all. I joined a Stanford study and had a spinal tap sample submitted for testing - in theory I am "unlikely" to develop anything for the next 20 years - but that only gets me to my late 60's :(

Same, except we also have digestive issues. I'm really hoping a paleo diet and good probiotics will save me. It's already helped me a lot. I'll let you know in 40 years if it prevents me from getting Alzheimer's.

If you’re supplementing probiotics, there is some research about inulin to talk through with your doctor. There’s a chance that inulin is carcinogenic even at lower doses. A lower dosage might be 4g and a typical probiotic is 200g.

Reasons to be wary of this research, including:

-The rodent-to-human study element

-causation v correlation

-sample size

Reasons to take this research seriously:

-Probiotic supplements are relatively new and long term effects aren’t understood.

-The “health as a business” realities that are very much at work here.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S277257232...

https://news.gsu.edu/2018/10/18/adding-refined-fiber-to-proc...

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by burningChrome »

proee wrote: post #79

Running improved my sleep quality dramatically. Now the problem is, that if I take a day off running, my sleeping suffers. Curious if people that do weight lifting (which I'm considering) get great sleeps? Maybe I can alternate between cardio and weight lifting each day?

I play hockey frequently and have the same issue. When we go on vacation, I sleep worse, need to sleep later and longer to feel better. I know that even moderate cardio regulates circadian rhythm and helps with body temperature regulation. Your body's temperature increases during exercise, when you stop and your body temp comes back down, neurologically it tells the body you're now ready for sleep. Exercise also helps regulate melatonin production which affects your sleeping cycles.

When I play in really hard, grueling sessions, taking CBD also helps reduce the inflammation in my body and helps me sleep deeper. I also stretch for at least 30-40 mins when I get done which also helps.

So it makes sense, once you stop or change your body's cycle, it can affect a lot of other areas of your day-to-day schedule.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by 121789 »

proee wrote: post #79

Running improved my sleep quality dramatically. Now the problem is, that if I take a day off running, my sleeping suffers. Curious if people that do weight lifting (which I'm considering) get great sleeps? Maybe I can alternate between cardio and weight lifting each day?

yes, I alternate and it works fine. in my experience running/heavy cardio sleep > yoga sleep > weight lifting sleep >> no exercise sleep. if that makes sense

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by matthest »

proee wrote: post #79

Running improved my sleep quality dramatically. Now the problem is, that if I take a day off running, my sleeping suffers. Curious if people that do weight lifting (which I'm considering) get great sleeps? Maybe I can alternate between cardio and weight lifting each day?

Walking. Walk 3 miles a day. It gives you a drastically different set of benefits from running, and you can walk all day without worry of overtraining.

Running is great too. But be careful of doing it too much. Overtraining can break down your immune system and make you more susceptible to disease.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by bitcoin_anon »

burningChrome wrote: post #94
proee wrote: post #79

Running improved my sleep quality dramatically. Now the problem is, that if I take a day off running, my sleeping suffers. Curious if people that do weight lifting (which I'm considering) get great sleeps? Maybe I can alternate between cardio and weight lifting each day?

I play hockey frequently and have the same issue. When we go on vacation, I sleep worse, need to sleep later and longer to feel better. I know that even moderate cardio regulates circadian rhythm and helps with body temperature regulation. Your body's temperature increases during exercise, when you stop and your body temp comes back down, neurologically it tells the body you're now ready for sleep. Exercise also help…

I will add creatine as a supplement to improve sleep in the face of hard exercise.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by Damogran6 »

delichon wrote: post #54
Damogran6 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sleep 5-6 hours a night. I also seem to be bi-phasic...on the weekends if I wake up after 5 hours, hang around for an hour and successfully go back to sleep, the second cycle is the sleep of the dead. Like, I don't move. Wake up with limbs fallen asleep, a deep divot in the memory foam...and a lot more rested. (as an aside: have CPAP, apnea is not a factor.)

A CPAP had a severe negative effect on my sleep even after two years of getting used to it. I had severe apnea measured in a sleep study, but even so I've done better without it.

It helps for me...of course if I dropped 40 lbs, it probably wouldn't be needed...but then there's the whole GLP-1/Weight thing.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by matthest »

api wrote: post #17

Whatever sleep does, it's something nature has had a tough time optimizing out despite the extreme vulnerability it creates and the sacrifice of a little under half an organism's waking time. That should tell us it's something incredibly important that's hard to do any other way. Edit: on the other hand... if Earth had two suns and rarely had periods of darkness, you wonder if maybe there would have been more evoluti…

Yeah. Nature is the ultimate form of science. At any moment, it's incorporating an infinite amount of science, most of which we likely haven't discovered yet, and may not discover for millions of years - if ever.

Nature developed over millions of years of trial and error.

Re: Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why

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Post by matthest »

throwaway290 wrote: post #73

We have no understanding of medicine.

Yeah, if you think about it in the grand scheme of things, this is true.

Our science is fairly reductionist. Nature is incorporating vast amounts of science, most of which we probably don't even know about yet.

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