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College was my biggest mistake

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Re: College was my biggest mistake

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I often wonder how many people who write these kinds of posts actually benefitted greatly from college in ways they don't understand. For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like this one. In short, I think most people who can write great posts about how college didn't help them actually gained a lot of their most valuable (if intangible) skills from their college experience.

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Re: College was my biggest mistake

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I think the comments in this thread would be most useful if everyone noted how much debt they had on leaving college. :)

When you owe 80k to an institution there is quite a bit of incentive to believe in college's power. I think this pressure is a net positive though in a few ways, as it forces personal action and makes one double-check their decisions.

I left school with no debt, but not a full degree. It allowed me to take risks with my first few jobs which ended up paying off in the long haul. Had I needed money to pay loans I don't believe I would have been so lucky.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

#33

I often wonder how many people who write these kinds of posts actually benefitted greatly from college in ways they don't understand. For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like this one. In short, I think most people who can write great posts about how college didn't help them actually gained a lot of their most valuable (if intangible) skills from their college experience.

Are you saying that you can't learn to write without going to college?

Re: College was my biggest mistake

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post #25

I often wonder how many people who write these kinds of posts actually benefitted greatly from college in ways they don't understand. For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like this one. In short, I think most people who can write great posts about how college didn't help them actually gained a lot of their most valuable (if intangible) skills from their college experience.

> For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like yours. I'm fairly certain this has more to do with the average type of person that doesn't go to college rather than any causal link between Freshman Composition and good writing skills.

Causation and correlation makes this entire topic grey.

The truth is for 99% of people college is the best option for them. They'll get a job paying a decent salary, with a better work environment and the possibility of upward mobility if they so choose. Better than had they not gone to college.

There's a small, no miniscule, fraction of people who are motivated enough that they can achieve the same or more without the institutional learning and degree.

* I never finished college but benefited from my 3 years spent there.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

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post #33

I often wonder how many people who write these kinds of posts actually benefitted greatly from college in ways they don't understand. For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like this one. In short, I think most people who can write great posts about how college didn't help them actually gained a lot of their most valuable (if intangible) skills from their college experience.

Are you saying that you can't learn to write without going to college?

You can learn everything you learn in college somewhere else. But it's nowhere near as easy.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

#37

I often wonder how many people who write these kinds of posts actually benefitted greatly from college in ways they don't understand. For example, most people who didn't go to college can't write a blog post like this one. In short, I think most people who can write great posts about how college didn't help them actually gained a lot of their most valuable (if intangible) skills from their college experience.

It's true, going to college for a semester taught me that I never, ever want to write java for a living.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

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post #24

Not getting a CS education was my biggest mistake. I got most of a Finance degree, then dropped out when I ran out of money and found out people would pay decent money to a relatively inexperienced programmer. I'm happy with the way things have turned out for me career-wise - I think I'm a pretty competent developer and have a decent income and good future prospects - but I feel like there are opportunities that I'm…

I'm fine with anti-college sentiment as long as it's not anti-learning sentiment. College and structured, traditional, classroom based learning works for some people and it slows others down. All of the material learn in a CS degree can't be learned independently outside of college. Any benefit college gives to a person is going to be subjective and highly anecdotal, like "professor interaction" or being around like-minded peers as though people can't learn from others without being at college. Often times, if those concepts are learned outside of college they are learned out of necessity and immediately applied, rather than pushed to the back of one's mind on the off chance they might come in handy sometime down the road.

The OP's beef wasn't with college - it was with the false belief that college is the only way to become successful in life.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

#39
Paying $44k a year to not go to any of your classes was indeed a big mistake.

I could tell you another story about how I decided to take on a stupid amount of debt for school, but -- in the face of a lifetime of certain poverty -- the people I grew to know and the projects I actively pursued and worked hard on led me to a fulfilling life and a job that I love that covers my loans with ease.

There is a point in this post somewhere: asking 18 year olds to decide whether or not taking on crushing debt to attend classes they aren't sure they want to take (or even which ones they should take) is not a great thing to bet our economy and our children on. I don't really have an answer for communicating to someone just leaving home that the amount of money they're paying isn't worth it, though. Several people said it to me, but it was so abstract to me it was easy not to care.

In any case, anecdotes can give us guidance in our own lives (and crucially, they can provide us hope as we walk into an interview or open a late payment notice from sallie mae), but they're a pretty poor decision basis if we're aiming toward a societal optimum here.

Re: College was my biggest mistake

#40

College was actually exactly what this guy needed. He found his passion, discovered what did and did not work for him in terms of learning, and managed to enter the job market at a time where people with his level of experience and expertise could demand salary like what he has now. Offsetting a few years in either direction and he likely would have entered the job market at a very BAD time for people without college…

> Years later, I started working at Twitpic. College didn’t even enter the conversation.
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